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New Bus???
« on: May 27, 2018, 12:22:19 pm »

Is it true that someone got a new Bus Camper??? Come on let us know.......... #blush
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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2018, 08:32:51 pm »

Wasn't me!  ^banana= ^banana= ^banana=
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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2018, 11:46:17 pm »

It?s true! Got confirmation yesterday. Secret spy photo:



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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2018, 06:47:43 pm »


   soapbox=      soapbox=      soapbox=     soapbox=   

 I know who  originalsquealer  was - is  !! 

 - though they may try to deny   whistll=-    \pinocchio-

Yes, the truth is out, I got one... not sure why at this moment!

I have quite a bit of work to do... seems like I have been working on this from the ground up.
Still need to put in windows, tent screen, get the doors, strengthn up the frame.... etc...


But I think this baby cannot go out in the rain ?. ever!  not at least with some good layers of paint...

 see pic below






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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2018, 06:48:51 pm »






  It think it needs better tires too...?????..




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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2018, 06:49:58 pm »




 Yes, As usual, ? I am on a budget, as always, Katie is toooooo expensive!



   So again was getting this as a ground up work and with al   - wait! dinner time!
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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2018, 07:27:28 pm »


 

  Ok, so I am cheap...  but this is what happens & what you get  when you are cheap... and on a budget!

 
  (I dont understand why my phone does not take better pictures.. I just upgraded significantly to a flip phone...!)



 






















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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2018, 07:47:09 pm »


 Ok,

 That is how it was shipped to me.

Once unboxed...































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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2018, 08:35:10 pm »

 The history of it is...

Bought by a couple in Colorado,
Took their family out in it a few times over the years.
As their kids grew older, the couple "sold" it to thier oldest son, who used it a few times every now and then.
( I think they rarely camped in it)
They had a favorite VW mechanic who did the work on it. The son asked if they could store it in his "garage" at his house. His "garage" could fit 2 colonial houses easily, maybe 4..maybe 5, floor area wise... was 2 stories at least.
  It was stored there for many, many, many years, and the mechanic would take it out every now and then. Eventually the mechanic bought it, and he stored it along with at least 2 other buses, numerous bugs, and some nice antique cars from the 50's.  He would take the bus out every now and then also.

 The bus has only  ~57,000  miles on it. The mechanic had  & gave me copies of the original couple's and son's titles which reflect the mileage.  It is pretty much mint except for some surface rust around the rear engine compartment and surface rust around door edges. The rest is solid. It had factory undercoating, which has pretty much mostly flaked off (Obviously they did not use high quality tar  n-o ). Everything that I can tell is original - except the front seat coverings, the mechanic told me they were pretty much discolored so he changed them.  Mechanic said the bus was stored most of its life.  It even had the original label for the sink, still in the sink. Crazy

Because of age, the following was changed out.

All gas fuel lines ( done by the mechanic before he sent it to me.)

I did the following
Dent repair ( hired)
New (truck) tires
Kone shocks all around
New CV ( did'nt really need it, as it was a bad shock that was clunking)
Shimmed door bracket to stop it from making a bad noise when opening & closing)
Cleaned it! 40 years of Colorado dirt gets everywhere, and becomes like cement.
New fuel filler elbow  - which caused the EVIL chain-reaction maintenance....

  Had to pull the engine out to change the rubber elbow, which was a big pain for this year bus.
  So while the engine is out.. what do you do?..
   Changed the pressure plate ( WHAT the heck are those rivet pins??!) ,
    change the clutch disc,
change the throw out bearing,
change out the EVIL needle bearing  devil)- in the crankshaft. ( Had to modify a puller to get that out, and no, the ol' forcing the bearing out with oil did not work.  Did not try bread, did not try caulk, did not try potatoes! I read it all. But got it out with that tool).
Change the rear main seal.. did you know there are 2 different depths of recesses for these engines? Did you know the main seals you buy may not have the correct depth?  I live and learn.
Replace the O-ring seal in the flywheel, and hope it does not go "all Chinese on ya".  If you get a graphite one, you do not grease it! If you do not get a graphite one, you "must" grease it.

Ok, I am in the death throes of trying to get the bus engine back in. Ted and I spent Sat 11 am to 8pm trying to get that in. we came across and caused a few problems along the way. At my wits end, called Michelle, who gave me Shawn's phone number. Even though we peppered Shawn with a lot of questions through numerous phone calls, he was very kind and more than patient  with us &  pointed us in a new direction of installing the engine,  - by lowering the transmission.  As both Ted an I had enough, we are planning on doing next Sunday, ..although now  it sounds as if he may be too busy to help. This bus has sat in the garage for a month waiting to start again.
I am not a happy camper! No pun intended.


It is soo frustrating to spend that much time and really not get anything accomplished.. except for breaking the record in taking the longest time ever to put a bus engine in!      cr\y       cr\y   cr\y   bomb-






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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2018, 08:39:44 pm »

 bouncy-  Your the one I was thinking of but I thought would not sday anything till you puloled into a campout with it, It looks nice, how does it riun? Need any help?
What is your first camping trip going to be, I want to be there. Wahoo&.

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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2018, 08:52:57 pm »

All you had to do is ask and we would have been over to help!!!!

Sounds like a good buy and wish all the lucck with it.
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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2018, 09:10:51 pm »

 ..
 Congrats Matt... Took you long enough to come out of the freaken Closet..

I Know Nutten...  asttound
Other then allot... But ain't giving it up..   -rofl\ 8rofl=

 Now you need to join our Camping Club SJVWCC on FB for all our Camping updates..
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2018, 08:18:34 am »

 Thanks! But I have to get the engine in first!  That is my ordeal.

I would have asked, but I know it is a far travel for y'all, and was thinking I would be able to do it... how different is it from installing a bug engine - right?  Well, more to it than I found out!!


I may try to install it myself today, I have the day off.

I will accept help at any time, even taking the day off from work to get this beast in  - OK, so I am asking...!  =whiteflag

Compression test was perfect,  & It ran great - when the engine was in it!
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2018, 12:05:07 pm »

Update:

 OK, this morning I removed the upper tranny bolts, and the coupler is detached.
The transmission only came down ~ 1 inch.  It will not go down any further.
Tried putting the engine in with Katie's help

Once again was able to get the lower engine studs in the trans,  but could not align the trans post to the clutch plate. Katie's little fingers could reach through the pressure plate and feel the clutch plate and found the trans post was hitting the top of the clutch plate opening.

seeming here...




Could not tilt the engine enough - maybe due to strength and or interference  of engine stuff to align the post.

Not sure why the tranny did not drop more. It can support itself in fact. IF it could drop more, I could lower the engine a bit which I think would help. OR maybe in the case if we jacked up the tranny a half inch...  Hey, I'm new at this.

Katie went to work until 6 and is eager to get back to work on the engine, but I think we are at a stand still. (no pun intended) Maybe if we work it some more........, who knows.

Tops of the heat exchangers really get in the way...


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Re: New Bus???
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2018, 08:29:42 pm »

 Matt if you are attempting to tilt the trans downwards and mate the engine to it on an angle..

 Please remove the shift linkage from the trans 1st.. Because the shift linkage rod can and will bend if too much stress is put onto it..
You can leave the axles attached but linkage should be slip off to be safe..

 Over the years I've seen many VW's that had troubles getting the gears only to realize that the linkage was bent from some prior removal / install.

 As for trying to get the splines mated / engaged.  The slightest off angle will cause it to bind.

 The proper way to install the engine is raise it to height level " a motorcycle jack works great" to keep the engine on a sure footing and push the engine into the trans... You may have to jiggle or turn the crank slightly to find the spline engagement..  But once you do it will slip right in and easily be able to be pulled into place with the mounting studs..

Note if your attempting to jack the engine into place with a simple floor jack your fighting yourself.. It can be done with perhaps you and your brother but dangerous and tricky with Kate..

 Best of Luck you can do it.. It's just a larger bulkier Type1 engine your dealing with then trying to install into a easy peazy Bug..
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