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Title: Starting Buds engine
Post by: lovebus (jack) on February 05, 2008, 05:59:23 PM
Got Buds engine started around 5pm today, now I have to go out and set the timing. I have to take the rockers shafts off and make some shims to put under them because there is no adjustment left in the screws. I'll go out and do that now and take a compression test, but it sounds good. BO**
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Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: 66-Ghia on February 05, 2008, 07:41:41 PM
 YAHOO My wife and I looked at it at the same time
Jack you don't know how seeing that makes us feel after all that has happened. We can't thank you and the club members involved enough  BO**

Bud and Joan
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: 6T5 square on February 05, 2008, 07:53:51 PM
Jack, you are the king! :icon_king:

We are not worthy!
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: njgt-1 on February 05, 2008, 08:02:51 PM
QuoteGot Buds engine started around 5pm today, now I have to go out and set the timing. I have to take the rockers shafts off and make some shims to put under them because there is no adjustment left in the screws. I'll go out and do that now and take a compression test, but it sounds good.

You rule Dude!!   :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: kiko on February 05, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
Jack sounds great wish mine sounded like that! I want to be just like you when I grow up!
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: jthw8 on February 05, 2008, 08:24:39 PM
Woohoo...it works...had my doubts with as long as it sat.  I can doubt the motor, but never doubt the master, good goin Jack :)

Let me know when its time for the install party.  Gonna be very busy with the fiberglass job going on (see post in body section) but I want to help with that one, lets get this bus goin!
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: 66-Ghia on February 05, 2008, 08:43:54 PM
 :icon_cheers: I couldn't agree with you guys more, don't worry about an install date Jack and I (when I'm better) are going to take it down on his trailer to Joe's Bug Repair BUT you guys can help set up the insides plus  any ideas you might have etc. etc.
BO** BO** BO** BO**

Bud
 
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: jthw8 on February 05, 2008, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: 66-Ghia on February 05, 2008, 08:43:54 PM
:icon_cheers: I couldn't agree with you guys more, don't worry about an install date Jack and I (when I'm better) are going to take it down on his trailer to Joe's Bug Repair BUT you guys can help set up the insides plus  any ideas you might have etc. etc.
BO** BO** BO** BO**

Bud
 

Alright, thats up to you and Jack, Bud, but we're here if you need us.
Since Im having to gear up for fiberglassing for this new side project we could work out some custom stuff for the inside of the bug :)
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: 66-Ghia on February 05, 2008, 11:35:29 PM
 OH I FORGOT TO ASK-DOES THE MOTOR COME WITH A 3 YEAR 35000 MILE WARRANTY  ???
     @7@ LoL LoL O144 not/sure

Joe Shmuck
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: lovebus (jack) on February 06, 2008, 07:31:26 AM
I did't get to the compression test last night or instaulling the rocker shims, I did make them tho, I was to tired when I whet back out, maybe today.

It needs flywheel seals, it leaks oil or I should say the oil just runs out.

Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: lovebus (jack) on February 06, 2008, 10:54:24 AM
Well I took the compression test and I thought everythig would be great after #3 tested good but not so. Number 4 is a disapointing 105#s.

1-133#  2-145#  3-146#   4-105#

Number 4 may improve with some miles on it due to how long it sat without running, but not much.

Best thing to do is have a valve job.
Second best thing is just a valve job on 3 & 4. or swap the head from the engine in the bus. Right side head 1 & 2.

Third thing to do and what I would try, is to run it like it is. I'm thinking you Probably won't even put 1-2000 mi a year on it if that and it could last quite a while.  s#r I think Jim would take it to New Orleans and back. (-;

What do the rest of you guys think?

But in the end, you have to do what you think is best.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: jthw8 on February 06, 2008, 11:15:01 AM
I'd run it.  Like you said, it will be all local trips and you know we will always be there to get Bud's back if anything goes wrong.   I really never saw this motor as more than a stop gap so we could have the bus on the road this year (and maybe next) while bud decides what to do for a more long term motor.

Now if its truly just a valve issue and the heads are good on the other motor then that might be worth a shot.

But yeah, Id drive it to new orleans and back....I really should have compression tested the Dungbeetle...somtimes its better not to know.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: lovebus (jack) on February 06, 2008, 11:46:10 AM
I agree with Jim, Run that sucker.

When I'm done my Rod I'll have LOTS of time again and we can build a better motor. We can also get back to the club engine project.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: jthw8 on February 06, 2008, 12:14:59 PM
I would suggest we hang on to the old motor, although its siezed it may have some good parts for the future build (heads) and other accessories.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: njgt-1 on February 06, 2008, 12:57:38 PM
Guys,

run it but...
If the heads on the seized engine are any good just rebuild them. If it buys some time then Bud should start collecting parts for a rebuild. Just heads, pistons & cylinders should do the job. If theres any end play then a lower end rebuild might be in order. Possibly the original engine isn't in such bad shape so this will give Bud time and at least the thing will be on the road.

2CENTS
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: VWPANZER1 on February 06, 2008, 02:18:38 PM
Jack:

Did you drain the oil and inspect the filter screen? That will tell a lot. (If you didn't do that already.)


Poof
jct

Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: lovebus (jack) on February 06, 2008, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: VWPANZER1 on February 06, 2008, 02:18:38 PM
Jack:

Did you drain the oil and inspect the filter screen? That will tell a lot. (If you didn't do that already.)
jct



No I did not, no way to pick it up to do that. Joe's Bugs can do an oil change when he gets it.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on February 07, 2008, 01:41:50 AM
Wait... what is the old motor?
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: 66-Ghia on February 07, 2008, 04:06:59 PM
GREG:
I hope this will answer your question. ???

I bought a 1971 VW bus (with a seized motor)
I paid for the insurance.
I ordered the tags and paid for them.
All OUT OF MY OWN POCKET
To be used by myself and the club ( Jack has control over who drives it, if I can't)

Any more questions about the bus or motor I will let the B.O.D. to try and answer you.

Bud
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on February 07, 2008, 06:00:14 PM
Oh, so the motor that Jack fixed wasn't the siezed motor. It was a differnet one.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: jthw8 on February 07, 2008, 09:29:57 PM
Correct, Jack is working on a spare I had at the house getting it ready to go in the Bus so we can have it running for this season and not have to wait to rebuild the bad one.
Title: Re: Starting Buds engine
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on February 07, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
Oh ok cool! Waiting is never a good thing!