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Title: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on November 07, 2008, 01:36:01 am
Hello every body at SJVWC! I don't know if I am posting this in the right spot, but here she goes.....



         Ok well I came upon this site after along strange trip.( sorry last "dead" reference) It is a long story taudry at times but mine none the less. Ok SO this year, I had a nice chunk of refund change.....and we needed a bigger car, maybe a minivan even. SO I get to looking and happen across a bus for sale. It was like a spark of light! I never dreamed of owning one.....this goes on, so I will cut to the chase. I bought a 1974 Bus off of Ebay,the engine didn't make the ride home.. It had a 1500 beetle engine in it.  (also no firewall either!) glad that I didn't blow up, I took this a a chance to rebuild it while it sat waiting for an engine.
 Witch brings me to my current position, almost there.
I can't seem to get her started. I have the bently and had some family help, But I think I am missing something small
I was hopping to have it on the road before 2009, so it leaves me with two options...
I have it towed to a shop    or have a super duper VW fan person stop by to tell me what is going wrong.

I can provide more details as needed. Oh and I am in Philly. S@Sm
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 07, 2008, 07:12:07 am
Rockdog, you may want to check this first http://sjvwc.net/forums/index.php/topic,3309.0.html

Are you getting fuel to the carb?

Where are you in Philly?
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on November 10, 2008, 07:03:24 pm
Rockdog, you may want to check this first http://sjvwc.net/forums/index.php/topic,3309.0.html

Are you getting fuel to the carb?

Where are you in Philly?

No carbs! I am on the Atkins diet!. (sorry that was bad)
 I scrapped a 77 F.I. camper, I thought I could try to convert the 74 to be Fuel injected.
and fuel is getting into the engine. I just installed a brand new pump.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: braidmeister on November 10, 2008, 07:22:32 pm
Your Bus has Bosch L-Jetronic Fuel Injection. You can read up on it here: http://www.type2.com/bartnik/tech1.htm and do some of the testing procedures.

It is absolutely IMPERATIVE that you fix and seal any and ALL vacuum lines & potential leaks - especially from the rubber elbow/boot that goes from the MAF to the throttle body. I have the official VW manual for my '76 Beetle that goes over all the testing proceedures for L-jet, but if you dig around you can find everything in the manual and then some online. To perform all of the tests, you'll need a volt meter, a test light/probe, a fuel pressure gauge and patience...  I1t

I gave up on L-jet (and so did previous owner) and as my sig suggests, I am converting my setup over to MegaSquirt EFI, keeping most of the original sensors and adding a few more.  I'm pretty close - it was running - then wouldn't restart since the MS brain had a defect & I sent it back for repair. I sure wish I had the time to work on it!

-Brady
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on November 10, 2008, 07:34:03 pm
yeah  I have the bently (three to be exact!) I went through the procedures. When I did it first time, it said a bad pump. New pump and the test said a bad double relay. SO , new relay and still no start.
This is my first VW (aircooled) I think I have it right, but you never know. I put in a new wire harness, but ended up with an extra wire. I spent a couple of sleepless nights thinking about reading the wire diagrams :o
I have to wire up the rear lights...and put in the axles...and get the accelerator cable in..and

Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 10, 2008, 10:05:55 pm
Sorry, but can't offer any help with FI,
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on November 10, 2008, 10:14:17 pm
Sorry, but can't offer any help with FI,
thanks anyway...
i know things get harder with the type 4 engine aswell
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: Jack Kessel on December 12, 2008, 03:30:48 pm
Any luck with your engine starting yet?
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 12, 2008, 07:43:58 pm
I had some non rainy weather to work on the bus. I changed the spark plugs and wires that took me a lot longer than I expected. Number2 nearly took an hour. I also added more gas to the tank. Now at 1/2.    I did get a starter to try to turn it over by my self. I didn't try to start it yet again.
I tried to find someone on craigslist to stop by and help me but no luck.
I might order the bus cover from the bus depot, I don't think it will be on the road soon. 
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 12, 2008, 09:14:06 pm
I could stop over and check the basics out for you just to make sure they are ok but I know nothing about the FI system.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 12, 2008, 09:31:07 pm
I would take any help I could get. BO** fig2 :icon_puke_l:
 that what I am basically going over now, all the basics to make sure I am not missing something simple. the F.I. inspection is basically strait forward, but takes 4 hands! shocked
 kickButt
If I get this running I will become a life member!
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: bugs2much on December 12, 2008, 10:11:06 pm
I could stop over and check the basics out for you just to make sure they are ok but I know nothing about the FI system.

Sounds like it may be road trip, I'll go.  burnrubber
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 12, 2008, 10:27:11 pm
Well I can provide grub and libations of all sorts.ask and ye shall recieve.  A running bus will be my Christmas present.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 12, 2008, 10:34:25 pm
If we can get a decent day one weekend I'll let you know. Do you have any days off during the week? I'll come up and maybe Jim also.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 12, 2008, 10:49:53 pm
I have off this Sunday( a rare occurance). And a fewdays later on this week.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 13, 2008, 07:56:11 am
Sunday is out, I have plans but during the week is ok, what day are you off.

Is during the week ok with you Jim.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 13, 2008, 10:45:02 am
I have wednsday Thursday Friday this week. Friday I don't have to go intill the sun sets anyway.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 13, 2008, 11:34:49 am
It looks like rain or snow all week >:(
I will see what I can pull off on Sunday
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: bugs2much on December 13, 2008, 07:56:08 pm
So far any day but Monday is good for me.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 14, 2008, 11:28:36 am
It looks like the rain gods will not allow it this week.  :'(  maybe Thursday/ Friday?

well I gave myself more work now. I got the remote starter for the bus. I thought  I would give it a whirl .I wanted to check for spark. well I must have something wrong, it started turing over with out me hitting the button and the next thing i know my regulator is up in smoke.....
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 18, 2008, 04:59:52 pm
Really thought I could make it over this week till everything went to hell. Lets try next week.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 18, 2008, 05:06:10 pm
it is ok. maybe i started off to ambitous for my first project.

I have been looking at buses and bugs on craigslist. maybe santa will come early....
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: lovebus (jack) on January 07, 2009, 05:48:15 pm
I didn't forget about you, just been up to my belt with other stuff. I'll be checking the WX and let ya know.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on January 10, 2009, 11:55:32 am
strange, I guess my reply didn't stick.
 I know this is a down time anyway....
I was hoping to stop by the class tomorrow, but I have to work when the Eagles play......

Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: 66-Ghia on January 10, 2009, 08:24:26 pm
Pardon me for asking but what kind of work do you do when the Eagles Play      GO EAGLES   BO** BO**
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on January 10, 2009, 10:05:02 pm
I am a kitchen manager at the moment. It is a bar with a solid fan base , so our demand doubles and I have to be there. ( mostly because there are 4 cooks including myself.
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: 66-Ghia on January 10, 2009, 10:36:31 pm
Great - Just be glad your not on the field taking pictures, I did that for more years
than I would like to remember. I must say I made a lot of friends on the field and at their homes.


Bud
Title: Re: Is this thing on?
Post by: rockdog2877 on January 11, 2009, 06:55:58 pm
It seems like they were not the "good ole days"