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Archive => Archive board => Engine Shop => Topic started by: rockdog2877 on January 22, 2009, 04:37:36 pm
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Ok this past summer I bought a parts bus. And one of the suprises it had for me was a second engine.
And before I buy parts/ setup ( engine stand) I guess I should see if it is worth even working on.
I'm thinking I have to check for cracks in the case. I think it has all the parts including duall carbs.
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Always save extra engines. Even if you just use it for parts. Leave it assembled and covered somewhere. Or if your really ambitious (like Jack)- take it apart, clean all the pieces and do an overhaul on it. Since you don't need the motor right away, you could take it nice and easy, buying parts when you have the cash, and pretty soon you'll have a "new" motor sitting around gathering dust. (just kidding) There are alot of us that wish we had a spare parts motor sitting around.
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I guess I should say I am looking to rebuild it. But I don't know the condition of anything. I have it safely tucked away ( they make a great door stop )
I am thinking that I have to take it apart and start from scratch. The P.O. Said it needed "top end work" but he was also talking out his neck ( trying to unload his troubles
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Start with the HPBOOKS " How to Rebuild Your VOLKSWAGEN Air-Cooled Engine.
This book will take you through every phase from teardown, evaluation and assembly.
Then I would purchase "BUG ME VIDIO VOLUMN #3 "TYPE 1 Engine Rebuild.
Study and understand, then you should be abel to tackle it with condfidence
Most all of us started this way, that is without the benifite of being able to look over someones shoulder.
Lots of luck.
jt
These items are available on e-bay, Amazon and mail order.
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I've done two complete overhauls using the idiots manual and I will swear by it. As long as your organized and label everything, you'll be fine. If you are comfortable with your mechanical abilities, then buy the HP book Joe is talking about. As long as your comfortable around these engines, it's not as hard as it seems.
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Screw the books... Let's get 15 people over to Jack's... We'll get it done in 4 hours and have a blast! (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/MexWave.gif)
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I wouldn't mind it being a class project, but how do you know if it is worth your time?
Also it is a type 4
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If you have a way to "turn the engine over" with a starter such as an old trans and starter then its a good idea to take a compression reading using a compression gauge. If any cylinders are reading unusually low then you know something is not right. I don't remember if this is outlined in the Muir book but its not hard to do. Type 4 parts are around 2Xs as expensive as type 1 parts, I've got a type 4 project that I've been buying parts slowly because of the cost.
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well it is more dissasembled than you might think. the one cylinder head is off completely
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might be off for a reason Poof
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well it is more dissasembled than you might think. the one cylinder head is off completely
OK thats a start, now if you can clean all the carbon and junk out of the cylinder head and get a good look at the combustion chambers. Look for cracks around and between the valves. Any cracks in a t-4 head isn't a good thing but they are prone to cracking. Look in the cylinders and move the pistons up & down if you can are the walls of the cylinders scored? big scratches? how does the tops of the pistons look ?? Hopefully no dents or holes! If you can pull the other head and do the same examination, its a start to tell you something about the shape of the engine.
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well I was up today at 4 or so, I thought I go out to the garage and acctually take stock of my parts bucket, and to look over the engine for signs of trouble...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3225277338_1d5e1326fd_o.jpg)
it looked ok the pistons moved freely... there was no obvious signs of trouble.....just rust and dog hair..
here is the full monty so to speak..(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/3224422265_5f92749595_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3528/3225277504_db9ae4d051_o.jpg)
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Time to start cleaning! Label all your parts, buy a cheap engine stand and make it into a project. start a shopping list and hit the spring shows (like englishtown) there are always bus parts in the swap area.
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ok well my first thought Is I am not going to be able to do anything with it for a long time.
I was thinking of turning it into a project for the club. I don't know how it would work, but I imagine getting some people some hands on practice, and with a little luck something you could raffle off or sell for the club.
what do you guys think?
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Time to start cleaning! Label all your parts, buy a cheap engine stand and make it into a project. start a shopping list and hit the spring shows (like englishtown) there are always bus parts in the swap area.
Rock,
I'm with John on this one, really can't tell much by the photos. Do you know what size the engine is ? Type 4s came as a 1.7 , 1.8 ,or 2.0. Can you check the casting numbers on the spring side of the heads, that might give a clue as to what it is.
I was thinking of turning it into a project for the club.
I can't speak for the rest of the club but your offer is very generous and we'll discuss it at our managers meeting later this week.
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Engine number is Ge 052293
By my math that is a 2.0. L
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Engine number is Ge 052293
By my math that is a 2.0. L
yep! looks to be a 78-79 2.0. the carbs had me wondering but looks like a mix of parts.
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I didn't catch the story about the engine. The one was rebuilt, and he paid over $2000 for. He. Tried selling his bus for that amount, but it was too rusty for most. I paid 1000$
I parted out what I could and basicly broke even. I didn't realize the demand for Westy stuff.
I got lucky and scrapped the rolling shell a week before the the metal ( and everything else) event down.
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well I havn't heard anything. (if you guys are interested.)
IF I were going to sell it, how much do you think it is worth...?