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Title: Counterweight Crank
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 16, 2009, 11:42:14 PM
What are your views on counterweight cranks in a 1776? It seems like it's going to be another one of those petronics vs. points topics. Some people say that you only need a c/w crank if you are dragging, other people said a stock crank would be fine for a daily driver. What I've read is that without the c/w crank, it really beats up your case... though a c/w crank does the same thing just takes longer.

Just wanted to hear what you guys had to say, while I continue my 1776 research.

Check this out...
Any reason not to get a balance crankshaft (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=346148&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=counterweight&start=20)

Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: njgt-1 on March 17, 2009, 01:19:14 AM
QuoteWhat are your views on counterweight cranks in a 1776? It seems like it's going to be another one of those petronics vs. points topics. Some people say that you only need a c/w crank if you are dragging,

Why build something capable of more power and higher RPM and NOT add a balanced counterweighted crank? you'll just pound the case out quicker, hope you like throwing  d-s d-s away ! its stupid economy and no place to save a few bucks!
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 17, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
VW did a great job Designing the engine and it's not unusual for the little engine that could to go 200k mi except for having a couple of valve jobs along the way if you do two simple things, keep it tuned and regular oil changes.

If you checked a stock crank for balance you would find it is balanced very well from the factory. I agrtee with Bob to a certen extent but not the need for a counterwighted crank. The not so secret, secret is, to balance the crank, rods, pistons and flywheel, the whole rotating mass for better engine longevity.

A 1776 is not what I consider a very big engine to spend the extra money on a counterweighted crank when a good balancve job will do the job, but  I also know how you drive and nothing you do will help that poor engine  burnrubber  :icon_tongue:

Save your money, I'll let you keep up with love bus on the next cruise. LAUGH@
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 17, 2009, 11:06:10 AM
Ok so I picture needing th c w crank for drag racing when they are at the light and the engine is screaming.
I dont need that ha ha. Would a machine shop be able to do the balancing too? I know i have to send the case out to get the it bored out for the bigger cylinders. So all theses parts need to work as a team to power the engine efficently, balancing them togather makes them work togather better. Im probably not going with a lightened flywheel because I heard it makes it difficult to get up hills.  :-[
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: matt on March 17, 2009, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on March 17, 2009, 10:40:24 AM


Save your money, I'll let you keep up with love bus on the next cruise. LAUGH@




LoL     LoL      LoL


Yea, the time you showed me a route back to 322 from a meeting, I had to make an effort to keep up with ya, you were really zooming....... I could have swore I even saw your  entire bus leaning back on its frame from the acceleration!  :surrender:



Hope you are not leading burnrubber caravans with us 36hp'ers W1 at the rear........ 



Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 17, 2009, 01:22:27 PM
No chit Matt, for an old geezer he sure isnt afraid of the gas petal. lol lol lol lol ;D
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: 6T5 square on March 17, 2009, 04:46:55 PM
Now if you can only get him to use his directionals :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 17, 2009, 05:16:17 PM
I think thats one of his racing techniques.  ::)
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 17, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
Quote from: 6T5 square on March 17, 2009, 04:46:55 PM
Now if you can only get him to use his directionals :rolleyes:

Does your new avatar mean your a Dip Stick? I1t
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: 6T5 square on March 18, 2009, 05:35:39 AM
No, it means check your oil Damnit!
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 18, 2009, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: Beetleboi on March 17, 2009, 01:22:27 PM
No chit Matt, for an old geezer he sure isnt afraid of the gas petal. lol lol lol lol ;D

Hay Jim, I'm to far away, so willl you smack that kid upside the head for me. :icon_tongue:
Title: Re: Counterweight Crank
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 18, 2009, 09:42:21 AM
*Ducks and runs*  ;D  ::)