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Title: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 24, 2009, 07:55:44 pm
So washing dishes would be much easier if the spray hose worked in my sink...
Obviously it was disconnected, but I need help trying to figure out how to hook it up without flooding the neighbor... again.

It is obvious that this is the only place the hose could could connect to for the spray hose.

(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0001.jpg?t=1253836171)

(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0002.jpg?t=1253836247)

Either these should have some form of caps on them, or im missing peices because once you turn the water on, the water flushes right out of these two things.

(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0003.jpg?t=1253836302)

This is an image of the whole plumbing set up.

My guess is plug the two open pipes and screw the tiny hose into a hot or cold little screw in thing.
There's gotta be a way to have a lukewarm water instead of just hot or cold for the spray hose.


Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on September 24, 2009, 08:01:21 pm
Look up! The hoses usually go up and hook to the faucet, not down at the plumbing...

(http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/attachments/plumbing/930d1147547977-kitchen-sink-w-sprayer-hose-plumbing-diagram-faucet.gif)




BTW the little knob on the side of the valve is an air bleeder
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: bugs2much on September 24, 2009, 08:04:53 pm
Yea what he said. What you have pictured looks like a stop and waist valve. You can't hook the hose up to that.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Dagerm on September 24, 2009, 09:03:55 pm
In the 1st and 3rd pic there some sort of valve there....can you take a pic of that front and back? Might be a place to use an angle stop...or it could be just a gate/ball valve

Also a pic of the top of the sink might help a bit....single hot and cold spigot or one spigot with a mixer under the sink?
Do the spigots work now and you are just missing the sprayer?


Details...details.....
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 24, 2009, 09:04:01 pm
Do they sell Y splitters that I can run one to the facet and one to the spray hose? Seems like they are they only options besides the air bleeders that wont work.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 24, 2009, 09:20:51 pm
Top of Sink

(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0001-1.jpg?t=1253841397)

Some type of Y Splitter Here
(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0002-1.jpg?t=1253841468)


Air Release Valve
(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0003-1.jpg?t=1253841494)

Hose Connector Type
(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0004-1.jpg?t=1253841549)

Under Sink between hot and cold hoses.
(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/Beetleboi72/Plumbing/DSC_0007.jpg?t=1253841601)


Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Dagerm on September 24, 2009, 09:46:14 pm
Do they sell Y splitters that I can run one to the facet and one to the spray hose? Seems like they are they only options besides the air bleeders that wont work.

Yep. That is probably what you will have to do. Did the sprayer ever work? If so then most of the parts should already be there....gonna eat, then look for my flashlight...found one but it didn't work....and then double check how mine is hooked up..
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 24, 2009, 10:22:32 pm
They re-did a lot of the stuff in the apartment when we moved in. The sprayer never worked. I just discovered more bugs *not the good kind* in the bathroom. It's always something isn't it?
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 25, 2009, 05:18:05 pm
If its' under a certain amount of money... which it probably will be it's our responsibility. Seems easy enough to fix just need to know how.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on September 25, 2009, 05:26:14 pm
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Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 25, 2009, 05:40:15 pm
I just need a Y connector then I'm golden. I'm going to home depot to look around.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Dagerm on September 25, 2009, 07:08:06 pm
I didn't look at mine until this today...... &&&&

What I have and probably you do too is this.
Hot water from wall to faucet. Cold water from wall to faucet. There should be one more connection on the faucet. The hose for the sprayer runs from that connection. Just remember to run the sprayer hose down from the top of the sink and THEN connect it to the faucet.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Dagerm on September 25, 2009, 07:17:44 pm
Looked at you pics again...last pic in the second set of pics. I'm 99% sure it hooks up to the fitting with nothing hooked up to it.
One other thing you might want to do...
Look on the mfgs website and find that faucet.
Call the 800 number and tell them it is broke.
I did that with one of my faucets. $5.00 shipping and I got a brand new faucet. Just about every mfg. has a lifetime warranty now a days. I called them on it and they honored it. If you have no luck there I would just spend the $24.00...
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 25, 2009, 11:51:31 pm
There's no hole in that think surrounded by the puddy... do you think it has a cap on it. I feel threads. I guess I should turn off the water before messing with it Eh?
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Dagerm on September 26, 2009, 09:59:17 am
Well it either has a cap on it or has enough putty jammed in it that it doesn't leak.
Yep, turn off the water. Oh and in case something under that putty IS brokren, then you probably will be looking for a new faucet.....so wash the dishes first...
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on September 26, 2009, 10:36:33 am
Dude! STOP

You need the diverter... It's NOT a Y connector. It is a special device that shuts off the faucet when you squeeze the sprayer trigger and most importantly regulates the PRESSURE going to the sprayer! Hooking it directly to the water supply line is a BAD idea
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: 40FordKit on September 27, 2009, 11:07:04 am
Here's my take on this.....  Sink originally had a faucet w/ sprayer.  The landlord replaced the faucet with one w/o sprayer.

Faucets that accommodate the sprayer have a built-in diverter that the hose attaches to...... If you want a sprayer, ya gotta get a faucet that is setup for one.

Don
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 27, 2009, 03:10:33 pm
I guess I have to talk to the landlord about replacing the facet... unless I want to deal with not having a spray. Just think it's tacky to have it there and have it non functioning. I'll talk to the landlord about replacing it.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: 6T5 square on September 27, 2009, 04:56:49 pm
you obviously havent dealt with landlords. He's probably not going to give a rats a** if you dont have a sprayer.

Just buy the part and put it in yourself- no need to tell the landlord
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: njgt-1 on September 27, 2009, 06:01:19 pm
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you obviously havent dealt with landlords. He's probably not going to give a rats a** if you dont have a sprayer.

your right but my tenants have a sprayer

Quote
Just buy the part and put it in yourself- no need to tell the landlord

check your lease first!! if you screw it up you could be libel for any damage or possibly returning it back the way you found it.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 27, 2009, 07:42:07 pm
Thanks guys, I'll try to find the lease, I hate paper documents.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: matt on September 29, 2009, 09:12:46 am





Yes,

I was a Landlord for a couple years, 

Like tenants are golden people.....         


 Do not do any repairs on your own, if whatever you hookup leaks or what you will be held liable for any damage,  - if it can be found..  If you flooded your downstairs neighbor, you could be WHACKED big time from your landlord for water damage. Doesent take much water to hurt things.

 Contact your landlord and give him a chance, it may be low on the list of priorities if he owns a complex, but he should do it.  It is a faulty unit. Keep bugging him and keep doing that bugging him. If he says you can do it, put it in writing, you write it up and include you will make the utmost cautionary steps to ensure good workmanship, but you will not be held responsible for any leaks that can cause any damage

  There are some good Landlords out there, and I could tell anyone stories about tenants - all being horror stories.....  Out of about 8 diff people who rented from my firends and I, only ONE person took care of the property and paid their rent!

   We even gave free pizzas, sodas and chips to people if they paid their rent on time for 4 months straight!
These were "well-to-do " middle class people, no section 8'ers.

I should write a small book..........



m







Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 29, 2009, 10:42:39 am
The more I think about it I might just suck it up and deal with the non working sprayer. =-( You know me, I don't like when things are difficult or time consuming. I though maybe the hose was just disconnected, I think Paul? was right about it being a new spicket. Oh well.
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: matt on September 29, 2009, 10:54:01 am


 Real men dont need no stinkin sprayers to do the dishes!   :icon_blackeye:




M




   
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: njgt-1 on September 29, 2009, 08:48:50 pm
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Real men dont need no stinkin sprayers to do the dishes!   

Real men don't need dishes!  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Plumber advice needed... no crack required.
Post by: matt on September 29, 2009, 10:00:44 pm






                     Real men don't need dishes!  :icon_twisted:





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