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Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 05, 2010, 04:56:03 pm: So what if its 100 degrees out, time to work on BlueBelle:

Finished half azz-gas pedal linkage:

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle25007.jpg)

Started loossening up rear brake drums and shock bolts - Lower one is a b*tch.

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle25001.jpg)

Start making it pretty inside, oh man, it's an oven in there, forget this..

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle25005.jpg)
Good day to bake a Super Beetle windshield seal

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle11002.jpg)

Gets real pliable in the sun, borrowed some hands and got it right on...
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle25012.jpg)

Maybe I'll trace some wires after dinner once the sun goes down... whew!

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle25003.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Jack Kessel on July 05, 2010, 08:44:12 pm: Quote
Finished half azz-gas pedal linkage:

Thats not half azz, thats a Full azz job!! (-;
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on July 05, 2010, 08:54:23 pm: Quote from: Jack Kessel on July 05, 2010, 08:44:12 pm
Thats not half azz, thats a Full azz job!! (-;

Yeah boyeee
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 05, 2010, 09:53:10 pm: BTW, take a peek at the last photo, top right hand corner, above the battery and the ground bolt. WTH is that thing?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on July 05, 2010, 09:56:40 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on July 05, 2010, 09:53:10 pm
BTW, take a peek at the last photo, top right hand corner, above the battery and the ground bolt. WTH is that thing?

Thats the plug that sends the wires up front! Well the socket anyway...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on July 05, 2010, 10:08:43 pm: that is your BRAIN!!

or computer...if you want to be technical

or a Bosch L-Jetronic computer/brain if you want to be super geeky ;-)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 05, 2010, 10:10:27 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on July 05, 2010, 09:56:40 pm
Thats the plug that sends the wires up front! Well the socket anyway...

Oh no. not more electrical. I was hoping it was some old VW diagnostic block..

Hmmm. Can I borrow the way-back machine that took this web site back to March? I wanna go back a few years and beat the livin tar out of the PO's of BlueBelle...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 06, 2010, 08:12:07 pm: Quote from: ykuday on July 05, 2010, 10:08:43 pm
that is your BRAIN!!

or computer...if you want to be technical

or a Bosch L-Jetronic computer/brain if you want to be super geeky ;-)

My first brain surgery! I was curious tonight so I yanked it out seeing it had no wires connected to anything... One of those Hallmark cards that plays a song when you open it probably has more capacity than this thing.

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/bluebellebrain001.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on July 06, 2010, 10:08:03 pm: Sorry... Bus newbie here. Forgot FI bus has brain. Not yours as I see carbs.
So you're brainless... But its OK
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on July 06, 2010, 10:32:40 pm: My Bus still has a brain. Sorry I could'nt help myself (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/leggit.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 07, 2010, 08:57:01 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on July 06, 2010, 10:08:03 pm
Sorry... Bus newbie here. Forgot FI bus has brain. Not yours as I see carbs.
So you're brainless... But its OK

BlueBelle was an original FI Bus, based on the gas tank outputs thats in there. Must have switched out to a dual carb engine...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on July 07, 2010, 09:03:42 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on July 07, 2010, 08:57:01 pm
BlueBelle was an original FI Bus, based on the gas tank outputs thats in there. Must have switched out to a dual carb engine...

Or just pulled it cause they didn't understand it...Very common
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 07, 2010, 10:12:27 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on July 07, 2010, 09:03:42 pm
Or just pulled it cause they didn't understand it...Very common
Yep!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on July 08, 2010, 04:39:08 pm: Glad you are making progress Rich. I'm going to order my brake stuff with my play check. =-p
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 08, 2010, 05:56:08 pm: Greg - Lemme know the date when we are going to do your brakes - I can help ya...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Jack Kessel on July 08, 2010, 09:19:02 pm: I'm going to pull the front drums on my bus tomorrow, help me also(-;
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 08, 2010, 10:15:09 pm: Jack - 5 pm after work Friday, I'm there... otherwise, I got that whole w--- thing going...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Jack Kessel on July 08, 2010, 11:32:37 pm: Just kiding Rich, I never checked the front brakes, I did the back when I got it they were shot so I'm guessing the fronts are also. If they are I'll be done long before 5pm anyway. Thanks for the offer!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Evil-Tunes (Glen) on July 09, 2010, 12:03:55 am: Rich, Drove By Today Bus looked Great

Cheers
Glen
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on July 09, 2010, 07:09:43 am: LoL that could have easily been a English FAIL! That's for the proper punctuation. =-) Even though I read it wrong. =-)
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on July 19, 2010, 07:05:47 pm: Pulled out old starter, then watched the raindrops fall
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on July 19, 2010, 10:06:48 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on July 19, 2010, 07:05:47 pm
Pulled out old starter, then watched the raindrops fall

You had raindrops in your starter?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: matt on July 20, 2010, 06:51:51 am: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on July 19, 2010, 07:05:47 pm

Pulled out old starter, then watched the raindrops fall

(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rainonme.gif)

Timing is everything..............

...........along with valve, point gap adjustment................
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on August 01, 2010, 03:57:28 pm: Didnt have much time this week to do stuff or go to the cruise to Pete's house, BUT

- Put in new starter and at least got some engine cranking happening... getting closer to get her going...

- started fixing up Blue-Belles innards

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle0801002.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on August 01, 2010, 05:20:45 pm: FancyPancy.

I see you have an extra hand also.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on August 01, 2010, 05:27:36 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on August 01, 2010, 05:20:45 pm
FancyPancy.

I see you have an extra hand also.

J - Yep, nothing like 12 bucks of Home Depot carpet...

Ignore the cans of Rust-----M in the background on the table in the non-a/c garage. How'd they get there?

Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on August 01, 2010, 05:20:45 pm
FancyPancy.

I see you have an extra hand also.
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on August 09, 2010, 12:58:46 pm: With Georges' help, got BlueBelle idling a bit!!!! Got some wiring to do...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on August 09, 2010, 02:26:42 pm: (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/banana2.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on August 13, 2010, 06:28:47 pm: Awesome Rich! Hope she's on the road soon.
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on September 14, 2010, 07:31:19 pm: Tried to work on a bit tonight, damn dead 5 month old Pep Boys battery, got a replacement, dead too.

Bad karma, t'morows another day,
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on September 26, 2010, 09:50:40 am: Installed custom SJVWC rear view mirror add-on obtained at picnic.....

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle99.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on September 26, 2010, 10:44:12 am: Its not nice to hang Mark from your mirror. (-'
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on September 27, 2010, 06:49:33 pm: Rich.... Is BlueBelle coming to Bus Depot? Would love to see her.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on September 27, 2010, 06:55:33 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on September 26, 2010, 10:44:12 am
Its not nice to hang Mark from your mirror. (-'
(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/fishslap.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: matt on September 27, 2010, 08:02:49 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on September 26, 2010, 10:44:12 am
Its not nice to hang Mark from your mirror. (-'

LoL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on September 27, 2010, 08:15:18 pm: Quote from: ykuday on September 27, 2010, 06:49:33 pm
Rich.... Is BlueBelle coming to Bus Depot? Would love to see her.

Celly, not yet... Haven't had much time to work on her. Started the bus a few days ago, and smelled burning wires, which is a PITA after I had everything electrical just about working. I have some vacation time coming up, so I hope to work on her then
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 13, 2010, 12:16:52 pm: Had a few hours this morning before work...

I have all electrical lights now working, except for reverse lights - So, power comes from coil, to switch on tranny, then separate wire back to ? ? Please no more wiring diagrams :( A simple explanation or a picture is so much more useful than a cryptic wiring diagram that says S1 to t9c over to B6 - i'm searching the samba now...

Also, I found the right carbs linkage bar from the central linkage contraption just kinda hanging there. No wonder the thing cant idle more than 3 seconds :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on October 13, 2010, 05:11:35 pm: So, powBacker comes from coil, to switch on tranny, then separate wire back to ? ? Backup lights
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 13, 2010, 06:01:23 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on October 13, 2010, 05:11:35 pm
So, power comes from coil, to switch on tranny, then separate wire back to ? ? Backup lights

Thx Jack - that must be what this T-connector is for... black is tailights, brwn ground. nothing coming to it...

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/bluebelle10-12-2010001.jpg)

Hmmmm, the black and red are correct I believe going to the dizzy. He has a black wire ( with the tape on it) coming directly from the coil to up front to the fuse box....dunno what that does... I once thought it powered the fuel pump, but I traced it - guess this is where the reverse lights should connect to the tee, above...

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/bluebelle10-12-2010002.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 13, 2010, 08:43:40 pm: I'm getting stupider by the day....

Black up front goes from ignition to coil. check!
I'm mising a black wire from the + post to the tranny switch with a in-line fuse in it - got it
I'm missing a black wire back to the backup lights tee connector to provide power back to the lights - got it.

Thx Jack for igninting my brain cells.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on October 13, 2010, 10:20:11 pm: It's easy when you know how or if you have done it before! How many times, Jack? I can't remember! Is that a sign of I don't give a d-m or I'm old and grumpy, so don't bother me, learn for your self.
Cheers, I think,
Bob
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 24, 2010, 08:37:01 pm: So, taking advantage of this great day, I worked a bit on BlueBelle. Got her idling now and moving up and down the driveway... Found a short and fixed in the fuel pump wire to the coil, no wonder I got no gas. Also, take a peak at this:

I've got dual webers, with the linkage in the center. There are two linkages that look like mini-tie rods connecting to the throttles on each of the carbs.

Heres a picture of the one from the right pass side that fell off

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle10-26-10002.jpg)

Here's the center linkage. Right above the bottom left of the spring is the "joint" where the rod fell off - looks like a mini door knob. I'd point it out, but Jack doesn't like my finger getting in the way of my pictures. :) Ignore the blue wire and the spark plug wire off the plug.

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle10-26-10003.jpg)

Just to get her idling, I connected with a zip tie to keep it on. Looks like some sort of clip is missing - You can see an example of the clip in the first picture, right below the linkage...

Any ideas what can I use to replace these things, or does somebody make a replacement? I keep thinking some length of threaded rod, but I cant figure out how to connect.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on October 25, 2010, 09:52:43 am: Arn't you off one day during the week? I have some linkage but not sure if its what you need there are so many of them.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 25, 2010, 10:14:57 am: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on October 25, 2010, 09:52:43 am
Arn't you off one day during the week? I have some linkage but not sure if its what you need there are so many of them.
They work us to the bone, Jack...:) Yep, I'm taking off Monday 11/1... I'll send ya a PM.....
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 27, 2010, 05:27:27 pm: Wahoo!! BlueBelle hit the road today! Went about 1/4 mile around the block today in 2nd sounding like I'm on 3 cylinders. So much chit in the gas tank after sitting for 5 years. drained and refilled. Not exactly a well tuned machine at this point, but I got 'er moving..gotta pull the plugs next and free up my back drums.

Better save up my pennies... My dry rotted tires ain't gonna cut it...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Ant (Pop's Garage) on October 27, 2010, 06:13:14 pm: great to hear rich. and i have a great used tire guy not too far from us.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Evil-Tunes (Glen) on October 27, 2010, 08:00:50 pm: Quote from: BarileBug on October 27, 2010, 06:13:14 pm
great to hear rich. and i have a great used tire guy not too far from us.

Bills Tires?

Cheers
Glen
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 27, 2010, 08:15:12 pm: Quote from: BarileBug on October 27, 2010, 06:13:14 pm
great to hear rich. and i have a great used tire guy not too far from us.

Thx Ant. My goal is to drive by Glen's house in a few weeks...

Baby steps :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on October 27, 2010, 08:18:59 pm: Way to go Rich. :) Won't be long now
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on October 27, 2010, 09:31:46 pm: Cripes! Rustoleum AND deadly tires? Too much for me...I'm punching out! (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Ant (Pop's Garage) on October 27, 2010, 11:04:26 pm: yep bills tires cheap and they are better than wats on it now im sure
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on October 27, 2010, 11:16:16 pm: Rich... do yourself a favor and buy the correct tires once and forget the used tire advice. Bus Depot is your friend.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on October 27, 2010, 11:21:42 pm: Its like a magnet... mention tires and he shows up ;-P
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on October 28, 2010, 07:55:31 am: white on rice baby!!!

its just that i've been down that road before (riding on Passenger/death tires ) and i'm trying to steer people away from BAD decisions... you think i'm bad, goto the bay window samba forum and lookup "tires for bus"

ps. not trying to argue, just trying to educate (from real life experience)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on October 28, 2010, 08:22:01 am: Seriously, the difference in handling is like night & day. Not to mention the safety aspect. Do it right the first time you will be glad you did
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on October 28, 2010, 11:03:04 am: Ahhh, talking Bus tires again.

Don't bother buying KILLER tires or truck tires, do the right thing and buy the tire you really need for a bus, Bus Depot has them.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 28, 2010, 08:30:39 pm: I'm saving up for Hankook RA07's 165 14's from Bus Depot. Did plenty of research on Samba as well as on our site. Pretty funny going back over the threads with Celly and Greg goin at it...

My custom Rustoleum paint job deserves the very best! Plus, I need all that rigid sidewall to make up for the blown out ball joints as I someday get into 4th gear.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on October 28, 2010, 08:48:54 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on October 28, 2010, 08:30:39 pm

Plus, I need all that rigid sidewall to make up for the blown out ball joints as I someday get into 4th gear.

(-:
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Ant (Pop's Garage) on October 28, 2010, 11:10:39 pm: well i was just saying until its up and he is realy driving it. for now its worth 10 bucks to know its not going to blow out when u pull back in your drive way. (guess i missed the tire war???)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: buglvw (Howard) on October 29, 2010, 12:47:05 pm: Way back in 1976 when I had my 71 bus Pennsylvania would not pass my bus for inspection unless it had a 4 ply truck type tire on it.

Howard
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 31, 2010, 05:16:16 pm: Put on Glens' custom artwork today!

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/BlueBelle103110001.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on October 31, 2010, 06:23:11 pm: Beautiful Font... Very nice

And, it'll outlast the paint! (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/evil.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on October 31, 2010, 06:43:08 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on October 31, 2010, 06:23:11 pm
Beautiful Font... Very nice

x2
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on October 31, 2010, 10:09:06 pm: from that angle it looks like Blue Balls.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on October 31, 2010, 10:21:58 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on October 31, 2010, 10:09:06 pm
from that angle it looks like Blue Balls.
May be very accurate some days..:)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 01, 2010, 04:29:14 pm: Had a visit from Jack and Glen this morning,,, just a bit chilly, lucky I had my Kenmore dual purpose dryer and heater on..

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/001-1.jpg)

After taking a look trying to get BlueBelle to life, Jack hooked positive jumper from his truck directly up to her starter. She cranked up...thinking we got a bad cable from battery, I went off to Pep Boys got a shiny new 6 gauge cable, installed, and replaced other ring terminals on starter post... coated with a bit of di grease, went to start it... got just about nothing... Thinking its now the battery, even though I had it charged...went back to Pep Boys, tested battery hoping it was crap, it passed fine...

Hmmmm... Now I'm drawing a diagram of wires...:(
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: matt on November 04, 2010, 06:19:27 pm: Using a voltmeter, did you get the right voltage to the starter when you turned the key?

Matt
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 04, 2010, 10:04:17 pm: Quote from: matt on November 04, 2010, 06:19:27 pm

Using a voltmeter, did you get the right voltage to the starter when you turned the key?

Matt

Thx Matt. I'm electrically challenged. Have no idea how to do that.

Update: Jack is pretty sure it's a crappy ground. So, I'm taking a few hours off friday am to:

- Polish down with a wire wheel to totally clean bare metal where battery ground is - On newer buses, there is a bolt into the sheet metal, right under where the "Brain" is , near the battery location.

I'm gonna start and see what happens.

- If that does nothing, I'm going to recheck the ground strap on the tranny nose cone.

Then start and see what happens

- If that does nothing, I'm running a second ground cable from the neg battery post to the engine block.

If that does nothing, I'm pushing it out of the driveway so I can go on the cruise saturday with the GlowBug. Then, push it back in my Kenmore heated garage, and then try to wire in a starter relay. Jack gave directions on an earlier post a few months back to somebody.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 05, 2010, 07:54:14 am: Make sure the ground strap on the Trans is going to the stud that the trans mount bolts to the body and not where the trans bolts to the mount.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 05, 2010, 01:31:28 pm: Ok,
Shined up body ground point with wire wheel, reconnected to battery, barely turns over.

Shined up engine block bolts, connected second ground cable to battery to one, then another, barely turns over.

Shined up the freakin connectors on the battery cable I'm using for second ground cable, barely turns over.

Thinkin I'm, smart, get out the remote starter, connect to starter/battery cable post and solenoid post, turn on power up at "key" to get fuel pump going, barely turns over.

Gotta go to work now... but my next steps are:

disconnect all wires on starter/solenoid other than directly to battery, and crank away.

also, double check tranny ground, although I have two grounds on the thing now anyway...

Nothing happens then, I'm disocnnecting the alternator wires from the positive battery cable.

At that point, I got nothing but a battery,solenoid, remote starter and a ground cranking on it...

I'll be going to the cruise saturday in my truck...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Daverted on November 05, 2010, 01:43:43 pm: Maybe... the internal solenoid contact is overheated or corroded, Ive seen the melted inside if they get too hot, if Jack bypassed the solenoid and it turned over fast, Just maybe.... High Resistance in the solenoid ?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 05, 2010, 01:52:25 pm: Brand new starter/solnoid...replaced in July, along with the brnad spanking new battery, the brand new battery cables, the brand new terminal ends, the brand spankin new tranny ground strap...
:)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 07, 2010, 10:43:37 am: Got BlueBelle in nice somewhat heated garage... Gotta go to sleep after working 3rd shift last night.

I miss Tyler and Greg, my third shift chat buddies.

The suspense of getting her started will have to wait a bit...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 07, 2010, 12:28:03 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on November 07, 2010, 10:43:37 am

Got BlueBelle in nice somewhat heated garage...

somewhat heated is Really stretching that buddy (-;
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Evil-Tunes (Glen) on November 07, 2010, 05:57:31 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on November 07, 2010, 10:43:37 am
Got BlueBelle in nice somewhat heated garage

Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on November 07, 2010, 12:28:03 pm
somewhat heated is Really stretching that buddy (-;
(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rotfl.gif)(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rotfl.gif)(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rotfl.gif)(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rotfl.gif)(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rotfl.gif)

Yea but you have to do A load of clothes to get some Heat
(http://www.thesandiegocoast.com/wp-content/uploads/image/clothes%20dryer.jpg)

Cheers
Glen
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 08, 2010, 09:47:35 pm: Quote from: Evil-Tunes on November 07, 2010, 05:57:31 pm
Yea but you have to do A load of clothes to get some Heat

Tonight was sheet night, so I had the Kenmore dryer fired up for heat for 3 hours...

Anyway, switched Glowbug's battery (that works just fine) with BlueBelles and started up with remote starter, same result,,,,,,

Goin to Jacksonville for work for a few days,,, I get back, I'm pulling the starter out.....If no go, I'm also then fishing out two red wires that the starter solenoid has connections to that run to the back, they were snipped and used for the diagnostic junk. Maybe they are touching/shorting inside the bundle I can't see...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on November 09, 2010, 08:18:07 am: When you get back...Set up "Electrical Party at Rich's House" We'll bring testers, knowledge & a couple of Mr Buddy's
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 09, 2010, 09:21:14 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on November 09, 2010, 08:18:07 am
When you get back...Set up "Electrical Party at Rich's House" We'll bring testers, knowledge & a couple of Mr Buddy's

Totally good with that :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 10, 2010, 11:07:38 am: Let us know and be sure to have a load of laundry to dry....

Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on November 09, 2010, 09:21:14 pm
Totally good with that :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 10, 2010, 09:03:44 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on November 10, 2010, 11:07:38 am
Let us know and be sure to have a load of laundry to dry....

I'll make sure... I gotta hunch - I'm gonna try a few things before I waste peoples time, then, I'll get a the econo bottle of Tide and let folks know...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 13, 2010, 07:19:21 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on November 10, 2010, 09:03:44 pm
I'll make sure... I gotta hunch - I'm gonna try a few things before I waste peoples time, then, I'll get a the econo bottle of Tide and let folks know...
Had some time this afternoon - took off the entire wire harness cover from starter up to the front fuse box and SURPRISE!!, about midway through, about a small Dixie cup worth of slimy water came out of the harness. I'm not Mr Wizard, but I can't believe that can be good to have your main feeds ( red/white & red/back) sitting in a harness in water...

Putting the Kenmore dryer on full blast tonight to dry things out, see what happens..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 19, 2010, 04:38:44 pm: Was up near Lansdale, that close, I had to go to Bus Depot.

New Hankooks in my truck... Ol Visa card to the rescue...:)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rockdog2877 on November 19, 2010, 08:51:43 pm: Did you get it to start?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on November 19, 2010, 11:00:08 pm: Quote from: rockdog2877 on November 19, 2010, 08:51:43 pm
Did you get it to start?

From Lansdale? (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/whistling.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rockdog2877 on November 20, 2010, 12:35:18 am: "a remote, remote starter....."
Well there has been a few days from the 13th..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 20, 2010, 07:54:27 am: Quote from: rockdog2877 on November 19, 2010, 08:51:43 pm

Did you get it to start?

I think it would be in the sky from a skywriter plane it started.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 20, 2010, 07:56:29 am: Hope to have time sunday night to work on for a coupla hours...

I got a hunch that should make it start. If I didn't hear Jack start this thing up varoom waroom straight from his truck battery, I'd just pull the starter and take a peek at the bushing in there first.

If it does or doesnt work, I'm running a new red/white and red/black feed up front. What the hell, I'll also wire in a new 12 gauge wire to the coil/fusebox.

Didn't I say a few months back I hated electrical? :)

All this time, I could have been polishing and buffing my Rustoleum to a nice dull matte sheen. :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 22, 2010, 10:47:17 am: Had a few hours to put in, plus two loads of laundry, so I had heat...

For a test, I took both red/black and red/white wires (they feed up front and back) off the terminals to the starter.. eliminates any nonsense up front.

So, the only connections were:

from battery positive red cable to starter, battery to ground. Connected my remote starter to starters' large terminal and to top terminal as normal.

Got barely a crank.

I know battery is good, since I put in my Bug, and vice versa and started.

I'm thinking, it has to be the damn starter or starter bushing... the only thing that gets me is that Jack connected directly to the starter with battery cables from his truck battery and it fired up fine

The only thing he could have bypassed is that I have TWO red wires coming from alternator connected on the positive post. I will disconnect them next, just to make sure I dont have some crazy issue with the alternator.

The good news is that while tracing some wires out, I got the license plate light working ( connected backwards by PO) and the interior back dome light on (not connected at all by PO). I now have every damn electrical thing working on this bus

I still think my wife is coming into my garage and messing with this wiring...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on November 22, 2010, 10:20:14 pm: When your going to work on it again let me know so I can come over, I want to look at something
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 22, 2010, 10:49:27 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on November 22, 2010, 10:20:14 pm
When your going to work on it again let me know so I can come over, I want to look at something

Oh no, this is when you tell me I have something stupid hooked up, like the starter in upside down.

Ok, will do...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on November 25, 2010, 12:26:10 am: I think I have this mess figured out...

I just read a clear color coded wiring diagram for this Bus, my wiring is screwed up completely between the alternator, voltage regulator, battery, and starter.

Stay tuned....
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 05, 2010, 09:50:18 pm: Scarecrow approved, now installed, I talked to Mark about these at the party...

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/Bluebelle12-4-2010001.jpg)

Oh yeah, also hooked up ground directly to block, charged battery, did a bunch of other stuff, and let her rip... No go.

Ran out of laundry so I had limited heat... Pulling the starter sometime this week, I'm thinking bad starter solenoid on the damn thing...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 06, 2010, 07:46:36 am: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on November 25, 2010, 12:26:10 am

I think I have this mess figured out...Stay tuned....

Just Truckin...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on December 06, 2010, 04:36:53 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on December 05, 2010, 09:50:18 pm
Scarecrow approved, now installed, I talked to Mark about these at the party...

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/Bluebelle12-4-2010001.jpg)

Way cool, can't wait to do mine clap2-* Sorry she did not start for you *shoc
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: skibumtgm on December 06, 2010, 05:35:12 pm: Looks good bud
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 06, 2010, 10:25:21 pm: Quote from: scarecrow on December 06, 2010, 04:36:53 pm
Way cool, can't wait to do mine clap2-*

Well just in case I buy it from you in the future...
Could yo do a proper D.O.T. placement on those

0 0 0 0 0

It'll save me a bunch of welding
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on December 06, 2010, 10:46:05 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on December 06, 2010, 10:25:21 pm
Well just in case I buy it from you in the future...
Could yo do a proper D.O.T. placement on those

0 0 0 0 0

It'll save me a bunch of welding
sure, will do
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 06, 2010, 11:25:28 pm: Drilling through that rock solid Rustoleum was tough...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: matt on December 07, 2010, 07:00:13 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on December 06, 2010, 11:25:28 pm

Drilling through that rock solid Rustoleum was tough...

clap2-*
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 07, 2010, 08:43:21 pm: rock solid & rustoleum?

Thats like...

semi-boneless

plastic silverware

aluminum bottle

random patterns

rolling stop

anybody else?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on December 07, 2010, 10:19:38 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on December 07, 2010, 08:43:21 pm
rock solid & rustoleum?

Thats like...

semi-boneless

plastic silverware

aluminum bottle

random patterns

rolling stop

anybody else?
Jumbo shrimp #@rofl3
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Ant (Pop's Garage) on December 07, 2010, 10:38:56 pm: Rustoleum Wars
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 07, 2010, 11:01:20 pm: (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UAeuX9xB9Cc/S89XrG6_qtI/AAAAAAAADkg/TlZnag1hbV8/ruwa.jpg)

*_no**
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 07, 2010, 11:20:28 pm: I would love to get pushme/pull ya and put on a fresh coat of Ultra Gloss...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 08, 2010, 07:38:06 am: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on December 07, 2010, 08:43:21 pm
rock solid & rustoleum?

Thats like...
semi-boneless
plastic silverware
aluminum bottle
random patterns
rolling stop

anybody else?

I think I have this figured out!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 08, 2010, 12:18:48 pm: Your killing me :) :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 11, 2010, 05:21:55 pm: Ok, had some time today, plus three loads of sheets :) - pulled the starter...

Somehow, I'd swear there is no starter bushing anywhere to be found - not on the shaft, not in the housing, nowhere. A bit of metal shavings in the housing where the starter sits, but that is it...

Brought the thing back to Advance Auto, where the 18 year old said " Our starter tester machine is broken" I said, "Good, so is my starter, and baffled him with "Must be the starter solenoid - I got 12.7 volts from the battery" and other phrases. Waiting on a new one today.

I have to work overnight tonight, I took pictures of the old starter and housing - I'll try to post...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 11, 2010, 06:07:55 pm: The bushing is very thin and should look like copper color
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 11, 2010, 10:18:12 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on December 11, 2010, 06:07:55 pm
The bushing is very thin and should look like copper color

Unless it's an automatic... I think automatics didn't have one (confirm?)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Ant (Pop's Garage) on December 12, 2010, 12:58:39 am: my autostick don't have one
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 12, 2010, 02:39:59 am: Yep, I know they look like a copper fitting. Ill take a picture today when I can. Hopefully get the new starter today.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 12, 2010, 08:38:22 am: Autos dont have one but his is a stick
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 13, 2010, 05:31:21 pm: Ok, here's some pics...

The "old" new starter as I took it out:

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/kaylie12-13-2010001.jpg)

The housing, I can't see that great, but I don't see a bushing in there:

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/kaylie12-13-2010003.jpg)

Here's an up close pic, nuttin in there I can see...

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/kaylie12-13-2010004.jpg)

And. here's a pic of the "new" new starter bushing that came with new starter. I made sure I put my pretty finger in the picture for Jack..:)

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/BlueBelle%20-%201975%20VW%20Bus/kaylie12-13-2010005.jpg)

Ok, I have to watch these next couple of sentences, so I'll be detailed..... I put my finger in the hole of the housing that the starter bolts, and felt nothing in there...I guess I just jam this bushing in the housing hole?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 13, 2010, 05:51:45 pm: The hole "of the housing" looks elongated in the close up so the starter has been damaging the housing.

Sorry, You need a new Trans!!!

No, Not really, just thought I would get your heart racing a little.

Do you have a set of drivers so you can put the new bushing in and use locktight and hope it stays put.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 13, 2010, 06:35:49 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on December 13, 2010, 05:51:45 pm
The hole "of the housing" looks elongated in the close up so the starter has been damaging the housing.

Sorry, You need a new Trans!!!

No, Not really, just thought I would get your heart racing a little.

Do you have a set of drivers so you can put the new bushing in and use locktight and hope it stays put.

OMG, OMG, OMG... I didn't get past the few two sentences...

Drivers, like punches? I read somewhere you can use a wood dowel and coax it in that way, No? I defer to whatever you think works best...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 13, 2010, 08:00:42 pm: Yes, you could do that but you want a dowel a little bigger then the hole so you dont drive it to far.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 13, 2010, 08:07:46 pm: Bushing Drivers....

(http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/201283/Metric_Bushing_Driver_Set.jpg)

Has a shoulder that the bushing sits on while you drive it in so it wont distort the bronze bushing

Looks like there's still more than 270 degrees of original hole there. You should be OK with loctite

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_UAeuX9xB9Cc/TQbFRBZXu-I/AAAAAAAAG90/L57aZc4qIbI/bushing.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 13, 2010, 08:27:12 pm: Thanks Shawn -

So, to do this right, should I get all the old one out? I was thinking a tap, but I guess that wouldn't work for half a bushing..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 13, 2010, 09:22:08 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on December 13, 2010, 08:27:12 pm
Thanks Shawn -
So, to do this right, should I get all the old one out? I was thinking a tap, but I guess that wouldn't work for half a bushing..

That's correct. There's a trick where you pack the entire hole with grease & drive a punch (the size of the shaft) with a hammer in and since the grease cant compress it pops the bushing out. But I don't think it will work either.

Guess it'll take some careful chieseling
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on December 13, 2010, 09:44:58 pm: Rich,
Don't use a tap! It will damage your trans housing because your starter wore some of the bushing away. I agree with Shawn. If you get a small chisel or awl under the good side of the bushing, you should be able to pry it enough to get it out. The picture shows definitely why your starter would drag.
Good luck,
Bob
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 15, 2010, 09:48:15 am: Thx Bob!

Might be interesting to squeeze up there and pry out... I need arms the size of Tylers... :) I don't really want to pull the engine in 20 degree weather to make it easier to get out..

Only concern is if this "half" bushing falls into the tranny, correct?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on December 15, 2010, 08:47:17 pm: Some people drive it in and let the flywheel SMASH IT UP but I wouldn't do that.

You need a Sacrificial Philips screwdriver about a foot long, grind off the point tip then grind a flat in it (the flat has to be a least as wide as the bushing) so you have a little hook on the end, slide a deep well socket over it to use it like a slide hammer to pull the bushing out. It does work.

&$hmmthin_+ OH, You should call George, he should have a starter bushing puller you could usee
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 15, 2010, 09:59:25 pm: http://www.etoolcart.com/porschevwstarterbushingpullerp239.aspx (http://www.etoolcart.com/porschevwstarterbushingpullerp239.aspx)

(http://www.etoolcart.com/ProductImages/porsche/P238-L.gif)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on December 16, 2010, 12:18:02 am: Rich,
I have a slide hammer puller with a small hook you can attach to the end. Just a thought?
Bob
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on December 23, 2010, 01:37:50 pm: Since I "volunteered" to watch my granddaughter for two days, the only thing I can do is clean up my workbench. I have the cleanest garage around. Got together my broken tools and put them in a pile to go back to Sears. Love that place. Got new stuff for replacing 30 year old tools from my Pops.

Happy holidays!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on December 23, 2010, 09:59:42 pm: BEETLEBOI WAS HERE.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rockdog2877 on December 24, 2010, 03:02:19 pm: Quote from: Beetleboi -Greg- on December 23, 2010, 09:59:42 pm
BEETLEBOI WAS HERE.
Is this message board graffiti?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on December 24, 2010, 05:55:15 pm: Quote from: rockdog2877 on December 24, 2010, 03:02:19 pm
Is this message board graffiti?

indeed it is
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on December 24, 2010, 10:22:19 pm: Heh
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on January 02, 2011, 10:14:44 am: Quote
Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on November 25, 2010, 12:26:10 AM

I think I have this mess figured out... Stay tuned....

}dunn-- Still tuned
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 02, 2011, 04:10:12 pm: Hey, not fair, just went through 7 gallons of paint - I held off painting for almost 20 years... wife caught up with me. Just now finishing up...

Looking to work on BlueBelle next saturday... You busy?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on January 02, 2011, 07:11:00 pm: Just give a shout.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 02, 2011, 08:04:12 pm: Ok, will do...
Title: BlueBelle Lives!, or not?
Post by: rich67vw on January 04, 2011, 10:17:15 pm: Went off to AutoZone and switched my starter to one for an automatic versus a manual per George's recommendation.

Here it is: Notice the stubby end...no bushing

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/Bluebelle01-06-2010001.jpg)

Came home, threw two loads of laundry in the Kenmore for heat, and installed. Charged the battery, and.........................

YES!!! Idling OK... Started again, and let it idle. Cool beans... BlueBelle lives. Went to get my video camera on this historic day, and came back to this on the floor:

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/glowbug67/Bluebelle01-06-2010003.jpg)

Kenmore laundry is done, I'm out of Bounty towels, and I'm ready to fire up my SawZall on this bus because I'm pissed.

Oh well, Wednesday is another day.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on January 04, 2011, 10:24:23 pm: Wow, bummer...oil filter, oil cooler :confused04:;...oil cooler was toast on my rig.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on January 05, 2011, 05:13:30 am: Heh that's just chocolate syrup! Someone played a nasty trick on you! Grab some Ice Cream and enjoy!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 05, 2011, 07:24:48 am: I think my wife is sabotaging this Bus...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on January 05, 2011, 08:03:12 am: Look at it as a challenge instead of a setback. easy for me to say.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 05, 2011, 06:57:08 pm: No question... I dont give up that easy... I'll look at it thursday night...maybe...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: bugs2much on January 05, 2011, 07:31:48 pm: Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on January 05, 2011, 08:03:12 am
Look at it as a challenge instead of a setback. easy for me to say.
What great words of wisdom *+youth Great to hear the starter worked, sorry about the oil spill Rich.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on January 05, 2011, 08:13:12 pm: I love thursty thursdays!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 30, 2011, 07:05:19 pm: Ok, had a few hours today, in between putting down a Pergo floor. Stopped at AutoZone and got two of the best Chinese made oil filter cap wrenches $5.99 can buy. One is a 93 mm/15 flute, and one is a 93 mm/36 flute. I have an AC PF13 on the engine now, so I pulled one off the shelf just to make sure one of the cap wrenches fit. (15 flute is the winner. I bought the other one just because). Got home, and something else came up, but was able to get some time and go under the Bus just now and get try to get the damn thing off. Ok, my spine is now frozen, and the damn thing slips and spins around the filter edges. It's too cold now. I'll attack it this week maybe.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on January 30, 2011, 07:44:12 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on January 30, 2011, 07:05:19 pm
Ok, had a few hours today, in between putting down a Pergo floor. Stopped at AutoZone and got two of the best Chinese made oil filter cap wrenches $5.99 can buy. One is a 93 mm/15 flute, and one is a 93 mm/36 flute. I have an AC PF13 on the engine now, so I pulled one off the shelf just to make sure one of the cap wrenches fit. (15 flute is the winner. I bought the other one just because). Got home, and something else came up, but was able to get some time and go under the Bus just now and get try to get the damn thing off. Ok, my spine is now frozen, and the damn thing slips and spins around the filter edges. It's too cold now. I'll attack it this week maybe.

Have you tried one of these. They will take off the most stuburn filter. It may dent the canister if it's realy stuck but it has always worked for me
http://www.google.com/search?q=RACHET+OIL+FILTER+WRENCH&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7DKUS_en#q=RATCHET+OIL+FILTER+WRENCH&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7DKUS_en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=1wRGTa6HG8L6lwfHqYQF&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CEsQrQQwAg&biw=1003&bih=571&fp=cd4bd38bf506aaa7 (http://www.google.com/search?q=RACHET+OIL+FILTER+WRENCH&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7DKUS_en#q=RATCHET+OIL+FILTER+WRENCH&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7DKUS_en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=1wRGTa6HG8L6lwfHqYQF&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CEsQrQQwAg&biw=1003&bih=571&fp=cd4bd38bf506aaa7)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on January 30, 2011, 08:37:42 pm: Yes, THIS (http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/56-MP-42/Motion-Pro-Spin-On-Oil-Filter-Wrench) is what you need.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 30, 2011, 09:27:12 pm: Thx guys. much appreciated. I'm gonna stop at Sears this week and get one.. This is silly.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: mochabill on January 31, 2011, 09:01:02 am: this works better;

http://www.jcwhitney.com/3-leg-oil-filter-wrench/p2010720.jcwx?TID=8014524FT2&zmam=15972153&zmas=21&zmac=165&zmap=20743G
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 31, 2011, 03:41:27 pm: Hmmmm, choices, choices...

Thx!

I realize I'm just convincing myself that I have a oil filter leak, and delaying a simple task, when I know deep down I bet I'm gonna have to pull the damn engine to pull the cooler..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: scarecrow on January 31, 2011, 04:59:27 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on January 31, 2011, 03:41:27 pm
I know deep down I bet I'm gonna have to pull the damn engine to pull the cooler..
You don't have to pull the motor to replace the cooler
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on January 31, 2011, 06:12:42 pm: I would think that if it didn't leak before you changed the filter that it is the??????
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on January 31, 2011, 06:15:13 pm: Maybe he double gasket it! One is great two is catastrophic! I have seen engines lost because of it!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on January 31, 2011, 06:20:15 pm: Did that ONCE in my life...went through about 5 quarts of oil twice on a Chevy Nova... Its why I always check with my finger to feel the metal mating surface to make sure...

If I did it again, than I'm more worried about dementia in my head than my engine :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on January 31, 2011, 09:48:59 pm: I always double check. If you put the two filters together, the old gasket should lube the new one. Be careful of dirt! If the old one doesn't lube the new one it's probably because it is stuck on the engine! Good luck! By the way Rich, your not a kid anymore. Senior moments creep up on some of us! Like, does any one know why I went down cellar?
Title: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on February 12, 2011, 07:24:56 pm: Well, Jack came over today...

With a 3 foot cheater bar and a claw oil filter wrench, we got the old one off, put the new one on....

Gave it a start, and oil peed out ....bad oil cooler.

Jack says to do this all right, the best bet is to pull the engine, and bring it over to the Busted Knuckle garage... probably replace push rod seals, oil cooler, exhaust maybe.. we will see...

waiting for a little warmer weather, in a few weeks, for the pull...

Thanks Glenn for coming by this afternoon with a donation of a an oil filter wrench :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on February 12, 2011, 08:43:34 pm: Why don't you post when you're doing something? I was bored out of my mind!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on February 12, 2011, 09:51:01 pm: Didn't really do much... Finished my Pergo floor though...

I'll see when its a good time is to pull the engine and get it over to Jacks..

Just keep thinking about how you are getting that gravel in through that door... :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on February 12, 2011, 09:59:00 pm: Quote from: GlowBug (Rich) on February 12, 2011, 09:51:01 pm
Just keep thinking about how you are getting that gravel in through that door... :)

All my customers are construction companies and they love me....

My favorite one will loan me a Dig-it.

(http://cesmith.biz/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/jcb.28563142_std.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on February 13, 2011, 02:55:51 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on February 12, 2011, 09:59:00 pm
All my customers are construction companies and they love me....

My favorite one will loan me a Dig-it.
**woohoo
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 04, 2011, 07:27:30 am: Bluebelle may see the sun saturday...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 04, 2011, 06:21:07 pm: Special guest who needs an XL Tee-shirt showing up for an engine pull. :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 05, 2011, 06:23:05 pm: Its out!!!! Major Big thanks to Celly's for his help today!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on March 05, 2011, 07:04:01 pm: No problem MugMan! Working on a Bus is fun, working on a Honda however.... @#vomit
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 05, 2011, 09:27:18 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on March 05, 2011, 06:23:05 pm

Its out!!!! Major Big thanks to Celly's for his help today!

{}congrats

**woohoo

5%5mexwave

Stay Tuned
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 05, 2011, 10:00:28 pm: Its comin your way, JackWagen, as soon as I clean stuff up for ya!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 20, 2011, 08:13:54 pm: ok. all cleaned up and purdy for Sir Jackwagen - I'll get it over this week..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on March 20, 2011, 08:14:34 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on March 20, 2011, 08:13:54 pm
ok. all cleaned up and purdy for Sir Jackwagen - I'll get it over this week..
Photo???
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 20, 2011, 08:20:15 pm: Lost my camera in the ocean plunge..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Fire Lady (Michelle) on March 22, 2011, 01:00:30 pm: You jumped in the ocean with your camera?

So, guess Jack will have to start updating this thread.... whistleegi
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 22, 2011, 02:31:04 pm: Yep, I just have to get the engine over to him...between nap time..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 25, 2011, 07:23:10 pm: Wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After a crappy week of work, nothing beats getting your engine over to Jacks house on a friday night.

Done!!!!

Going over Saturday at 9am to "assist"

Thx Jack!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 25, 2011, 09:10:32 pm: whistleegi You got that wrong.......... I'm going to assist
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 25, 2011, 10:03:54 pm: No problem!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 26, 2011, 03:02:12 pm: MugMans engine reseal #@rofl3 lot of fun and got a lot done, standing by for more parts :confused04:;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecyLgkmwf1Y
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 27, 2011, 10:21:31 am: When you come over again we need the Distributor so we can set the valves.

After 8 days the engine is mine.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 27, 2011, 12:38:47 pm: No problem...

JackWagen, do ya have the part type for the seal I didn't have and the clutch kit for that engine? I got a guy on the Samba who I think has a new one he's gonna part with...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 29, 2011, 07:18:52 pm: This Friday, Jacks Garage at 9 am ish, looking forward to setting valves and replacing the oil cooler...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 29, 2011, 08:17:30 pm: Uh Oh, the oil cooler takes seals (o:
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 29, 2011, 08:21:40 pm: Who does this on a Friday?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 29, 2011, 08:52:35 pm: Quote from: Beetleboi -Greg- on March 29, 2011, 08:21:40 pm
Who does this on a Friday?

Someone who calls in sick and wants to go on sat to Franks, and sunday to BWTB... :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 29, 2011, 08:53:14 pm: Quote from: JackWagen on March 29, 2011, 08:17:30 pm
Uh Oh, the oil cooler takes seals (o:

I think there is two, and they are orange - I can sort them first...

I hear your camera charging from 7 miles away :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on March 29, 2011, 09:08:51 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on March 29, 2011, 08:53:14 pm
I think there is two, and they are orange - I can sort them first...

I hear your camera charging from 7 miles away :)

I have a bunch if you need them (If there the same as the beetles
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 29, 2011, 09:20:10 pm: Thx Shawn. I'm good. I've got two pairs of em unless Jack hid them
I think I'm screwed on the clutch. I think its a 210mm and a 1 year only one off.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on March 29, 2011, 09:22:52 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on March 29, 2011, 09:20:10 pm
Thx Shawn. I'm good. I've got two pairs of em unless Jack hid them
I think I'm screwed on the clutch. I think its a 210mm and a 1 year only one off.

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/medium/3632020.jpg)

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1090032

$29 Go get it

AND its in PA!!!!!!!!

Damn Im good
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 29, 2011, 09:32:09 pm: Yep, called him, and some other dude last night... hopefully making a deal!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on March 29, 2011, 10:05:38 pm: The rigid disk isn't as good as the sprung one like you have but it will work.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on March 29, 2011, 11:25:37 pm: Hmmmmmmm.....
Thinking......
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 03, 2011, 05:52:43 pm: After BWTB, came home and continued cleaning stuff up. Felt like painting the engine brace yellow, so I did. Replaced the engine mounts that were rotted way. started tracing the fuel vapor lines...

Tapped out the old starter bushing, because I could :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on April 12, 2011, 09:40:24 pm: Rich whats next on the bus???? We removing the rear drums this weekend?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 12, 2011, 10:01:04 pm: At Jacks house at 9am this saturday, replacing the clutch, putting in the crankcase seal, taking out the oil switch and putting some teflon tape ( Jack says to), and seeing what Jack says is left....

I'm hoping I got my replacement engine tins coming this week, plus the oil filler tube - that bolt was welded in, so I just got another one for 5 bucks...

Love the Samba...

Then, I gotta get the heat exchangers welded for the pieces that fell off, and do something with the carbs and that linkage.

Not getting nothing done this week stuck in the Hampton Inn :(
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on April 13, 2011, 07:27:05 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on April 12, 2011, 10:01:04 pm
At Jacks house at 9am this saturday, replacing the clutch, putting in the crankcase seal, taking out the oil switch and putting some teflon tape

Can we come watch?

Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on April 12, 2011, 10:01:04 pm
Then, I gotta get the heat exchangers welded for the pieces that fell off, and do something with the carbs and that linkage.

What do you need welded? I can take it to work and do it... Seeings as I have a really good welder & no lectric yet at the TajMagarage (water water everywhere)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on April 13, 2011, 08:47:59 pm: Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on April 13, 2011, 07:27:05 pm

Can we come watch?

the TajMagarage (water water everywhere)

Sure

Water in the garage?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on April 14, 2011, 08:10:41 am: No "water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink" a euphemism for "great welder, but no place to plug it in"
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 14, 2011, 08:55:44 am: Ok. Good. Thought the BaMaRagaHal had an incident.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on April 14, 2011, 08:41:49 pm: The Whattttt..... Garage? He He !
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 16, 2011, 05:47:35 pm: Jack all done with reseal!!! We installed new clutch plate as well !!! Howard stopped by Jacks. Went home, started working on Fan shroud and replacing alternator Celly showed up for some advice. Cool day!!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on April 16, 2011, 11:28:47 pm: Thanks a million Rich!!! **^bana0 :jump4jo": 2@@cool
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on April 17, 2011, 06:46:29 am: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on April 16, 2011, 05:47:35 pm

Celly showed up for some advice. Cool day!!!

&$hmmthin_+ on how to fix his bus :confused04:;
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 17, 2011, 08:26:07 am: Needed a coupla exhaust gaskets
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on April 17, 2011, 07:19:13 pm: Thanks again for the gaskets...saved me a trip to PA. Chester Cheeto ran great today!

Now we need to set a date for an BlueBelle Engine Install!!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 18, 2011, 12:03:15 pm: My goal is gonna be May 6th to complete the other stuff I have to get done..

Buses are no fun parked in a driveway, I wanna drive it now...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on April 18, 2011, 12:54:27 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on April 18, 2011, 12:03:15 pm
My goal is gonna be May 6th to complete the other stuff I have to get done..

Buses are no fun parked in a driveway, I wanna drive it now...

Lets see, May 6 = many $$$$$$$$$ storage. You can make it May 14, I need cash.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 18, 2011, 02:20:41 pm: oh, crap. I gotta come by and get it... before I have to auction off the engine to pay for the storage fees...

I'll PM ya when my son gives me my truck back to go pick up...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on April 18, 2011, 02:40:23 pm: NO rush at all buddy... *bills)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 18, 2011, 02:53:33 pm: oh no.................... :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on April 18, 2011, 07:01:47 pm: Luckily, got the engine out off the Jackwagen Rental facility before the auction began.

Ok, better change my profile now...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 05, 2011, 03:39:28 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on April 18, 2011, 12:03:15 pm
My goal is gonna be May 6th to complete the other stuff I have to get done..

Buses are no fun parked in a driveway, I wanna drive it now...

sigh..............
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rockdog2877 on May 05, 2011, 04:10:31 pm: where are you at with the engine? installed yet?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 07, 2011, 07:51:57 am: Haven't been home for a bit. I have a week off planned before Memorial Day hope to work on then.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 07, 2011, 09:58:16 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on May 07, 2011, 07:51:57 am
Haven't been home for a bit. I have a week off planned before Memorial Day hope to work on then.

What about Granny's?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 07, 2011, 11:54:04 pm: Son graduates Rowan next friday.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 08, 2011, 02:15:03 am: Looking at Samba classified at work now. :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 08, 2011, 07:52:17 am: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on May 07, 2011, 11:54:04 pm
Son graduates Rowan next friday.

Wow...Scheduling a graduation the same weekend as GGB7 was dumb... I'm sure he'll understand #@rofl3
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 16, 2011, 06:45:19 pm: Sprayed some WD-40 on hinges on way up driveway..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 20, 2011, 09:10:50 pm: WT* is that engine going to grow roots before we get it put it in :confused04:;
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 20, 2011, 09:15:35 pm: On April 18 Rich said

Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on April 18, 2011, 12:03:15 pm

My goal is gonna be May 6th to complete the other stuff I have to get done..

Buses are no fun parked in a driveway, I wanna drive it now...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 20, 2011, 09:24:25 pm: Quote from: JackWagen on May 20, 2011, 09:15:35 pm
On April 18 Rich said

That cant be right...It's like May 20th & it's still not in :confused04:;
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: buglvw (Howard) on May 20, 2011, 09:44:14 pm: The poor guy gets no respect. You want him to take care of all those mugs and work on his ride too.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 21, 2011, 09:01:17 am: Why it isn't being worked on is....... with all this rain he can't find it in his yard.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_PGsnm7Oo65w/Tde3DSQt4NI/AAAAAAAAF10/ageQ7r8seCQ/junkyard43c.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 21, 2011, 03:51:38 pm: You guys are killin me :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 21, 2011, 04:00:03 pm: I REALLY want the trophy for "longest Bus to sit in driveway" at the Christmas Party.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 21, 2011, 04:01:38 pm: I didn't say "2011".
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 21, 2011, 04:22:38 pm: Quote from: JackWagen on May 21, 2011, 09:01:17 am
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_PGsnm7Oo65w/Tde3DSQt4NI/AAAAAAAAF10/ageQ7r8seCQ/junkyard43c.jpg)

Now THAT'S patina!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 21, 2011, 04:23:45 pm: By the way...That's also the ONLY way to get R*$!07&@M off! #@rofl3
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on May 21, 2011, 04:33:15 pm: I told you the grass was a factory option.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 22, 2011, 01:19:37 pm: It's getting worse by the day, soon he wont know he has it.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_PGsnm7Oo65w/TdlEL3eBlAI/AAAAAAAAF4Q/Uoiuds42sVk/154953_460488768508_196277133508_5686702_670400_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 22, 2011, 03:56:56 pm: I know its out there because I bump into it on the way to work
Started taking apart fan housing to replace alternator.Rudely interupted by a flooded basement....
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 22, 2011, 06:29:36 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on May 22, 2011, 03:56:56 pm
Started taking apart fan housing to replace alternator.Rudely interupted by a flooded basement....

If the motor is in the garage, why are you worried about the basement??? Git-er-done!!!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on May 23, 2011, 09:56:46 pm: What does the Mugmans schedule look like in June? I'll install that puppy, no prob.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 23, 2011, 10:17:02 pm: Celly, you name the day, and ill try to work around it...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on May 24, 2011, 08:53:29 pm: Rich, I won't be around this weekend, but how about the next weekend? June 4th or 5th????
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 24, 2011, 09:06:03 pm: June 4th is perfect. Plus, I think Jack is in FL so he can't rip on me :)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 24, 2011, 09:07:20 pm: Dripfest
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 24, 2011, 09:17:13 pm: Up to Celly....
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 24, 2011, 09:55:57 pm: Quote from: MugMan (Rich) on May 24, 2011, 09:06:03 pm
June 4th is perfect. Plus, I think Jack is in FL so he can't rip on me :)

bawlin)0 I'm missing out on everything bawlin)0
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Celly on May 25, 2011, 09:22:49 pm: Oh Jack %$oldcit...don't worry, we'll be sure to call you %$oldcit after we get blue belle running ?/moon2.. ?/moon2.. ?/moon2..
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 25, 2011, 09:34:27 pm: I'm sure OL blueballs will run fine, Cellys on the job.
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 25, 2011, 09:37:38 pm: Killin me.....
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 27, 2011, 06:41:02 pm: BrownBelle, thats all Im sayin...
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 27, 2011, 09:56:58 pm: A picture is worth a thousand words. BrownBelle

(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k416/6d4vdub/STUFF/IMG_02061.jpg?t=1306547709)
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 27, 2011, 10:03:48 pm: The MugBus lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Evil-Tunes (Glen) on May 27, 2011, 10:08:29 pm: JKgif Nice you Found A Parts Bus................ &^rofl

Grats
Mug man
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on May 27, 2011, 10:32:40 pm: Nice...Wanna trade blue balls for the push-me-pull-you? &^rofl
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 28, 2011, 12:14:18 am: Hmmmmmm......
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: lovebus (jack) on May 29, 2011, 07:34:16 pm: So, did you do anything to the MugBus today?
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: rich67vw on May 29, 2011, 09:36:42 pm: Took off scarecrows plates and took pics for insurance and DMV
Title: Re: Rich, your bus........
Post by: Beetleboi -Greg- on May 29, 2011, 10:50:55 pm: Yay Mugbus lives! Can't wait to see you at the next SJVWBCC event!