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Title: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 19, 2010, 03:44:01 PM
Ok well, I got my engine back in. I was all ready to fire up the engine, when I was setting the valves I thought it was all ready. After I set number 4 I kept spinning the engine and I heard a clack. I am pretty sure it is in the valve train, but hadn't had a chance to see the sound source. I havnt had a chance to try to figure it out. I was putting this out there maybe someone has had this problem?
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 19, 2010, 03:48:31 PM
Some backstory.
I had a running engine. I rebuilt it with a new case but same cam, crank heads. Ect. This spring I rebuilt it with a smaller base shim, when I went to set the valve lash last time the
rocker arms never came away from the valves. I bought a larger base shim to set the deck High like it was the first time. 
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 19, 2010, 03:51:06 PM
This time with the new shim I still had no play to set the valves. I put a shim under the rocker arm and I was able to get the valves set. 
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 23, 2010, 02:27:15 PM
well I narrowed it down to one valve/lifter combo/
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4818701124_0a2199d6d3.jpg)
number 4.
how do I figure put which one is the culprit?
spring or lifter?
a chicken/ egg question.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Jack Kessel on July 23, 2010, 04:17:16 PM
Quotewell I narrowed it down to one valve/lifter combo/

But both valves where hanging up.

Is that lifter chewed up inside?

Was the engine hydraulic lifters before?
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 23, 2010, 04:28:18 PM
It has some marks from the rod hitting the non center part. The other lifter looked fine.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Jack Kessel on July 23, 2010, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Kessel on July 23, 2010, 04:17:16 PM

But both valves where hanging up.

Is that lifter chewed up inside? one down

Was the engine hydraulic lifters before?
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 23, 2010, 04:47:53 PM
The case was hydro
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Jack Kessel on July 23, 2010, 09:22:12 PM
I'm not up on T-4 engines but you said you used the same cam, isn't the hydro cam differant then the solid lifter cam? Maybe higher lift.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 23, 2010, 09:29:40 PM
Solid cam. All I changed was the engine case.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 27, 2010, 02:22:16 AM
Well as of now I fixed it. The lifters were getting hung up on the case. If they were not perfectly set back they would stick, but not budge. Once I got it not to clang I turned it over by hand several times.  I dared to dream and hit the starter. No noise! ( well besides the engine pumping away.) I ran it for a  Minute and the oil light went out. I walked back and I had a pretty  good leak above the filter.  I am keeping my fingers crossed that it Is leaking from the sender.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: matt on July 27, 2010, 06:36:54 AM


Well att least the oil light went out!  YEa, hopefully the sender..

matt
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Celly on July 27, 2010, 09:04:58 AM


Good to hear it's running again Chris.  Sounds like your just about there.  Any chance you might join us for Sat. Mystery Cruise?

yucel
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 27, 2010, 09:45:30 AM
 I will try. I have to work through some overtime at work.
But it will be fun to try.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on July 29, 2010, 10:10:33 PM
I will have it running by Saturday. But not on the road.
Did you ever get the right piece of tin for your bus?
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Celly on July 29, 2010, 10:55:40 PM
Yes I did! Thanks for asking...did you ever get all your tin?
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on August 09, 2010, 12:25:40 AM
I dunno about all the tin. might be one short. split the block tonight, here is what I found.....

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4873998167_8b62916a34.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4873996617_e3f0d51cfd_z.jpg)



Title: Re: An update.
Post by: lovebus (jack) on August 09, 2010, 10:34:24 AM
I can't make out what your showing (chunk of bearing) but it also looks like the rear main bearing was spinning in the case. I sure would like to come up and check it out before you put it back together.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on August 09, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on August 09, 2010, 10:34:24 AM
I can't make out what your showing (chunk of bearing) but it also looks like the rear main bearing was spinning in the case. I sure would like to come up and check it out before you put it back together.
the one picture has a hunk of the rear bearing.
the bottom picture I was showing the cam bearing was down to the copper.
Feel free to stop by anytime.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: rockdog2877 on August 10, 2010, 12:32:25 AM
what's the best way to get a seized bearing off the crank?
lol a new crank?
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Bob(Herbie) on August 10, 2010, 09:11:56 AM
Is it a half or whole bearing? Probably whole! I have cut them off using an air powered cut off wheel, using a wheel the is very small (almost worn out). Don't touch the crank!!!!!!! When you get close carefully knock it off with a small chisel.
Good luck,
Bob "Herbie"
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on August 15, 2010, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: rockdog2877 on August 10, 2010, 12:32:25 AM
what's the best way to get a seized bearing off the crank?

Take it to Jack's.
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: 6T5 square on August 15, 2010, 02:21:15 PM
yeah, when I see an old broken crank, I think of Jack.







hee hee hee!
Title: Re: An update.
Post by: lovebus (jack) on August 15, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: 6T5 square on August 15, 2010, 02:21:15 PM

yeah, when I see an old broken crank, I think of Jack.

hee hee hee!

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Title: Re: An update.
Post by: Baha (Shawn) on August 20, 2010, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: LoveBus (jack) on August 15, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
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Quote from: 6T5 square on August 15, 2010, 02:21:15 PM
yeah, when I see an old broken crank, I think of Jack.







hee hee hee!


(http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/rotfl3.gif)