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VW Lounge => General Forum => Topic started by: kvbug (karen) on September 04, 2011, 06:31:53 pm
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Generally, if a bug has a shimmy ( 40-45mph) can it be fixed? Was told it's not the tires.
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Depending on the year most of the time its an easy fix for early models and a SB may take more money but nothing to get upset about.
Most of the time a shimmy that happens at a certain speed is balancing, but not on a SB.
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It's this car. It's a 71, and I don't know if it's a Super ...how do I tell? Had the vents below the front bumper. Spare tire could lay in the trunk ( wasn't one in there).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619&item=180718741352&viewitem=&category=6019
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It's a Super Beetle if the spare tire lays down in the trunk!
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Spare is under the mat. Looks nice, go check it out.
Main thing to look for in a SB is make sure the Frame head is not rusted out. and the front strut mounts.
A shimmy could also be the front struts on a SB.
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OOPS ..didnt lift the mat down at that end of the trunk, just up toward the top. Strut mounts.. hmmm, didn't check them. censor++.gif Battery tray had been replaced but looked to be a good job. I didn't crawl under the car to look at the floor pans or heater channels. I'll have George do that for me! lol Small oil leak, seems to be near the pan area. Engine started right up without smoking, ran strong while idling. Even I ~ the stick-shift challenged one~ was able to drive it (yes, even put it in reverse a few times **^bana0). Forgot what it's like to be without power steering though.. whew.... lol
Paint isn't nearly as nice as it is in pics or in the "very clean" description, so another buyer is going to be pretty upset if they don't look at it first... some chips , scratches, etc.. Some can be buffed, but some can't. Presume that the pic was taken when they got it 4 years ago, since there's a temp tag on the back. IMHO it would need paint. Some pitting around the window chromes, but windows line up right. Bumpers seemed good. One door doesn't lock, and the trunk opener in the glove box may have had an issue but we got trunk open. Wipers worked but washer not hooked up, lights all worked. Buzzer worked with key in ignition.
So if George gives me the ok, and it doesn't have any major serious mechanical or body issues , then I think I'm gonna go for it. I'll have him assess the shimmy too. I don't need to shake, rattle, and roll my way down the road.. #@rofl3
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Didnt we just see another car from Cream Ridge NJ? Coincidence?
My Questions.
Why does it have a PA temporary transit tag on it?
Did he just buy it? Why is he selling it if he just bought it?
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Doh replied at the same time you did... Asked and answered
Go for it!!!!!! Yay! Good luck!!!! Dubs on the Boards is Next Saturday...You could Win Stock vert!!!!! **^bana0 **^bana0
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Front seats and steering wheel not stock... Would have to do that.
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Front seats and steering wheel not stock... Would have to do that.
It's a peoples choice...The "people" wouldn't know that #@rofl3
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BTW I have both the stock seats and steering wheel if you want to go stock...I'll swap ya
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hmm... peoples choice, good point! Paint really "needs" though, and I don't know if I'd have it buffed or insured in time. IF I get it. ( Im trying not to put the cart before the horse.. *she says as she's shopping for parts online* but I'm getting excited.)
Ohhhhh you have stock stuff??? 2@@cool I would do that. It's not that the steering wheel and the seats aren't nice, they are, but I just want the stock stuff. Guess I'm weird that way.. }dunn--
Just did some research..steering wheel that's in car was an option. Hmm... may end up keeping, again IF I get the car.. lol
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most common thing with the hood opener is it pulls away from the glove box, may need a new glove box and re rivet the opener to the new box.
shimmy can always be fixed if its not the two main things I mentioned above.
When is Geo. looking at it?
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Wednesday. I have a class Tuesday nights ,and George already had an appointment set up for Tuesday because of the long weekend.
And if the shimmy is from one (or both) of the two things you mentioned? No fixing?
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could be steering damper?
i'd go for the 68 in pa.
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Oh ya, anything can be fixed on them.
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My bus won 2nd place in a people's choice show. 1st place was a lambo? 3rd place was a Jaguar. Oh, and don't worry to much about the shimmy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=5Ke5wcne20Q
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Wow Greg, you were in good company! Congrats on that win clap2-*
Video was great...although of course I was expecting it to be about the Beetle shimmy... lol (what was I thinking?! }dunn-- )
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well... did you get it? }dunn--
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Did ya, did ya?????????????
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Just got home from the appt with Dr George... and I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. Structurally and body-wise it's great... BUT it has a whole list of mechanical issues. ( oh where to begin..)
Ok here goes: (remember, Im not mechanically inclined..)
Vacuum advance not hooked up
No pre heat system
#2 &4 cylinders have a "light response"
Has a small carb which is out of adjustment
Shimmy is REALLY bad per George:
Track arm bushings bad
Steering dampers bad
Maybe balance front tires to fix? (or new tires & wheels)
Needs serious brake work
Master cylinder leaking all over the place
Right sides have heavy drag
Those are the big things..there are some smaller ones like horn doesn't work, Convertible rail has small rust spot covered over, small top seals missing, head liner has very small tear, front seats not original, hood release screws missing/ bracket loose, and the caps for the holes for the top are missing. The other thing is the paint.
Cosmetic things I can live with... mechanical and brakes,not so much. They would need to be addressed immediately.
Sooooooooo... what do I do? I don't really feel like spending thousands in mechanical repairs when the guy has such a high reserve.
KV not a happy camper bawlin)0 Any words of wisdom?
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Is this the yellow car on ebay? I don't understand :confused04:; is KV bidding on that car or is it another?
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Hi Das.. it's this car that I put a bid on and went to see in person since it's a couple of miles from me.Auction ends tomorrow.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180718741352
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Okay. What was the buy it now.....or did you have to wait for it to end?
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There's no buy it now, he has a reserve of 7K, and the auction is still running.
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My advice is to let it run out see where it goes. There is some interest in the car, it may hit the reserve. if not you can deal with the seller. What did George think it was worth? most of that stuff sounds like bolt on repairs. Rust is the true monster as you know. if you don't love it keep looking. with a 7k budget there are plenty of cars out there.
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Just got home from the appt with Dr George... and I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. Structurally and body-wise it's great... BUT it has a whole list of mechanical issues. ( oh where to begin..)
Ok here goes: (remember, Im not mechanically inclined..)
Vacuum advance not hooked up -
no biggie
No pre heat system
not sure what that means, no preheater tube for manifold or is this part of the heating system?
#2 &4 cylinders have a "light response"
Not sure what that means, but engine does have 100k on it, does it have sufficient power? Does it blow blue smoke?
Has a small carb which is out of adjustment
No biggie
Shimmy is REALLY bad per George:
Track arm bushings bad
Steering dampers bad
Maybe balance front tires to fix? (or new tires & wheels)
I dont know what people charge for that, can be done by home mechanics, least I did mine.
Needs serious brake work
Master cylinder leaking all over the place
Same as above
Right sides have heavy drag
Those are the big things..there are some smaller ones like horn doesn't work, Convertible rail has small rust spot covered over, small top seals missing, head liner has very small tear, front seats not original, hood release screws missing/ bracket loose, and the caps for the holes for the top are missing. The other thing is the paint.
Cosmetic things I can live with... mechanical and brakes,not so much. They would need to be addressed immediately.
Sooooooooo... what do I do? I don't really feel like spending thousands in mechanical repairs when the guy has such a high reserve.
KV not a happy camper bawlin)0 Any words of wisdom?
Was the seller made aware of the above? He should def list these things in his ad, buyer would be pretty darn angry about these not being mentioned.
Hard to tell you what to do....
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whistleegi For 7k........ I think you can do better....... }dunn-- The autostick makes it hard. You still have to shift some what. I would think about learning how to drive Stick Shift :confused04:; It will open alot more choices.
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pass
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What Martin said..... And
Structurally and body-wise it's great..
Thats a Big plus.
Every thing else isn't a big deal except the indication of #2 &4 cylinders have a "light response"
May or may not will need a valve job at most 2 new heads.
manifolds are a dime a dozen.
No one wants to say buy it and then it turns out to be a real money pit like a lot of VW's are. I know I would feel really bad if I told you to buy it and it turned out to be a piece of chit.
I know I could fix everything you mentioned for 2 grand BUT in all honesty
You should bite the bullet and learn how to drive a stick, it would open a whole world of more cars for you at much better prices. 2@cent
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When the auction ends offer him $5500 and and use thd savings to repair it. Nothing you listed is even remotely scary. Most of it is fixable with coffee and donuts =+grouphu9
I understand stickshiftphobia, Tracy has the worst case ever, so the auto stick will limit your selection. This sounds like a good one if you dont overpay. So we wait
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i still say get the 68 matt looked at.................
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate the input. Right now I'm just watching the auction , which ends around 3/3:30. There are other reasons for me not wanting a clutch car, so it's not a fear issue just to let you know.
Paul, I left a voice mail and sent an email several days ago to the 68 seller, but he never responded to me so I presume he's not going to.
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We understand, just hang in there and don't get to frustrated. Sometime the more advice you get the more your head will spin.
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What Shawn said.......
When the auction ends offer him $5500 and and use thd savings to repair it. Nothing you listed is even remotely scary. Most of it is fixable with coffee and donuts =+grouphu9
What Jack said....
. Sometime the more advice you get the more your head will spin.
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I don't know if anyone suggested this before but, you could try placing a wanted add (WTB) on the Samba. Just a thought!
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Ooooooh that's a good idea too. Thanks again everyone.
Right now with 4 hours to go the car is still where it was last night. What's going to happen? }dunn--
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my bet it will not make the reserve....... maybe it will go to 5.5K
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35 mins left.. $4350.... <tick tock, tick tock>
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Closed at $5600.
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Closed at $5600.
And still didn't hit the reserve.... [gunfiring\
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35 mins left.. $4350.... <tick tock, tick tock>
#@rofl3
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Well now, that was interesting. I called the seller, and he got really insulted when I told him some of the specifics of the work needed (primarily engine, shimmy, and brakes). No response to it running on two cylinders, so perhaps he was withholding information. He became a little hostile and said that I was, "obviously looking for a show car." I laughed and said, "no, we didn't even discuss it needing paint." What really irked me is that I KNOW show cars, and this obviously wasn't one.
Didn't even ask me what I wanted to offer for the car, only that he thought his car was worth his reserve and that he wouldn't take less. His next response was he'd call the next person in line because some guy has been "bugging him about it all day" , and then call ME if that falls through.
&hahano
KV's movin' on..
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Sorry Karen,
Sometime sellers have certain ideas in their head as to what things are worth... without wanting to see the market value...
If the other guy gets a good look at the engine, brakes, shimmy etc, bet he would be dropping the price - or should be. Wonder if NJ has lemon laws.... some states have done away with the "buyer beware" attitude.
If motivated to sell, and the other buyer drops, maybe you would be getting a call............
Nevertheless there are other bugs on the horizon... 7&7sun
M
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Matt ,you're right. I'm going to look elsewhere. Unfortunately his attitude spoiled the car for me, so I'm on the prowl again. Think I may attempt a 4 speed, since convertible autosticks are so limited.
I'll have to enlist the help of my favorite bug hunter whistleegi #@rofl3
So crew, Im still not a bug owner. Think I'll keep my next contender a secret and then just show up at an event with it, which I'm sure you'd all appreciate...
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Matt and everyone,
Yes, I think New Jersey has lemon laws for used as well as new cars. I say this because of my status as a ASE Master Technician I have been asked by several lawyers to check used vehicles for their clients! If a person or dealer misrepresents the vehicle, you have recourse!
Good luck,
Bob
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Well this guy was the King of Misrepresentation...
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Maybe you should take a look at Martin's (dasfusca) Ragtop. Its nearly perfect.
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Thanks Shawn, from what I understand it's beyond my price range. *bills)
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shucks
Maybe you should take a look at Martin's (dasfusca) Ragtop. Its nearly perfect.
Thanks for the compliment. It only took me 11 years to build it. it was my lifes work 3#blab#
I'll be sad when it sells bawlin)0
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Like losing a member of the family