http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1155186
So haw hard can it be to shoehorn this into a beetle?
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/medium/3849898.jpg)
Hell, for that matter, I have an extra one of these in my garage!
(http://countryhomescampers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/vanagon_automatic_transmission.png)
Would be nice to know what it is?!
Quote from: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 16, 2011, 09:00:28 PM
Would be nice to know what it is?!
Automatic transaxle from a vanagon.
Why not use a T3 auto? Should be closer to compatible.
Noone believes me but I have in my life seen an automatic beetle (in Columbus NJ as a matter of fact) Owner wasnt around so I didnt get to ask about it but I always assumed it was a T3 swap.
The top one IS a T3 auto...
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/medium/3849898.jpg)
And that's what I'm saying. It can't be too hard. Brand spanking new on Samba for $2500.
Put that in Franks vert and it'll be worth $4000 more.
once again the VW community turns to the lowly type3's for inovations.
just suck it up and come to the dark side
Quote from: 6T5 square on September 17, 2011, 07:44:56 AM
once again the VW community turns to the lowly type3's for inovations.
Don't flatter yourself, it's a T2 (
NOT Type 2 contrary to popular belief) transmission they used in the Type 3
Busses rule!
Quote from: 6T5 square on September 17, 2011, 07:44:56 AM
once again the VW community turns to the lowly type3's for inovations.
just suck it up and come to the dark side
I was telling Matt the other day, that the Squareback would make a great soccer dad vehicle, not to mention optimal space for my tuba.
&$hmmthin_+
Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on September 16, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1155186
So haw hard can it be to shoehorn this into a beetle?
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/medium/3849898.jpg)
And since I never fully answered....
No harder than it was to stuff this
(http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/barevwchassis.JPG)
Into this..
(http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/cutframe.JPG)
The width means its going to encroach on your torsion bars. So ditch the torsion and clearance the frame. Put the trailing arms on the adapter joints they make and go to coil overs for the rear suspension.
Bring me a body off chassis and the transmission and its a weekend or two at the slow pace at which I seem to work.
These are the adapters, they bolt to the spring torsion end and let the spring plate ride on heim joints
(http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/buggy/susp/spring%20plate%20conv.jpg)
http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/buggy/susp/buggyreararms.htm
Ahhh... So thats how you did it &^beer&
sheesh.... is that all it took??? #@rofl3
Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on September 18, 2011, 08:39:11 PM
Ahhh... So thats how you did it &^beer&
Actually I used an unmodified torsion housing, I didnt need the spring plate adapters since I used a stock transaxle.
If you've never seen how the whole thing came together though you should definitely check out wartburg.misfittoysracing.com
I had just looked at the spring plate conversions as an option when we briefly considered going mid engined which would have required removing the torsion bars.
Quote from: kvbug on September 18, 2011, 08:48:36 PM
sheesh.... is that all it took??? #@rofl3
Its all just bits and pieces...bolt them together, weld them together. Pray alot, curse more.
Jim,
Karen has the worst case of Shiftadubafobia we'ver ever seen.
Seriously considering the possibility of putting the Type 3 Auto in a Beetle or Super vert.
All kidding aside. Your thoughts?
OMG Shawn.... lets not embarrass me too much! lol (Actually much more to it than that, but won't go into it on here) .
Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on September 18, 2011, 08:56:51 PM
Jim,
Karen has the worst case of Shiftadubafobia we'ver ever seen.
Seriously considering the possibility of putting the Type 3 Auto in a Beetle or Super vert.
All kidding aside. Your thoughts?
My thoughts were very serious in the last post. The backside of the auto is too wide to keep the torsion bars but you could remove them, cut the torsion housing and get that in place. You'd have to switch to the heim jointed end plates for the spring plates and use coil over shocks.
It's all very doable, it requires some fab work but nothing earth shattering. If I had a chassis sitting here (no body) and the trans and your help it could be done in an aggressive weekend with time for a beer or 2. (yes, this is me offering some help if you really want to do it, but expect payback when I start Wartburg v.2)
The other *possible* option is, if you dont mind a slammed bug do an trans raise to get the auto up over the torsion bars but a) I think it would be too low and b) I'm still not sure you could raise it enough to clear that trans.
We should give Karen a start in shift training driving the Smart. Its got flappy paddles so she can learn the theory of when and why to shift without all that bothersome clutch and shifter coordination effort. Once that part is learned then the other bits fall into place, sometimes it's just hard to absorb them all at once so a flappy paddle car is a good middle ground for learning (its how Im teaching my daughter as well)