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VW Lounge => General Forum => Topic started by: c1run1 on August 14, 2012, 10:03:41 am
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Well I missed out on a 62 last week in Bucks county PA m but i found this 58 . The stroy is the motor and trans is not Original , he Made his own convertible supports , and there's a make shift patch in the luggage shelf . There is a top frame but no top and he put a early steering wheel on it from a chevy .
Do you think this VW is worth 3,500 ?
Oh it needs the right gas tank to ...
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Looks like a 40HP, myself, I would find something better for $3500
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How are the pans? Check the corners at the bulkhead for rot and the front beam. If the body is good, it can be worth it if you want a vert. Remember vert top parts are costly! 2@cent
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OMG- run from this!!
The stroy is the motor and trans is not Original ,
how much do youknow about the current motor? The rear fire wall is missing, ALL of the cooling tins are missing, the block looks pretty knarly for having an MSD set up put on it and some pretty wires, the carb looks like they found it in a parts box and do you really think any air is getting through that filter? I notice he has stand-offs on the engine lid- must be from the constant over heating.
he Made his own convertible supports ,
the only reason he would need to do this is if it was originally a sedan or the frame has rusted out.
and there's a make shift patch in the luggage shelf . There is a top frame but no top
again, sloppy work to make it into a salvagable car.
he put a early steering wheel on it from a chevy .
why? it's an ugly wheel to begin with so it looks like he had it laying around. this looks more and more like a collection of parts thrown together.
Do you think this VW is worth 3,500 ?
Oh it needs the right gas tank to ...
I dont think it's worth $500 as a parts car. Remmember, you have to fix everything that is wrong with it and this is only what I can see from here. I would maybe make an offer of $750 but you will have to sink at least another $3-4000 into it to make it prersentable. Convertible parts (especially early ones ) are very expensive.
I would be patient and wait for another car- it will come. Trust me.
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i'm loving that air fa,fa,fa-filter... #@rofl3
Does this thing actually run? :confused04:;
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No, love the patina though!
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is that Patina?? Looks like it had caught on fire.
sorry
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I paid less than twice that for mine, and it was all done (yes we had some brake issues... *cough cough* but other than that).. 2@cent
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Ok everyone i thank you for all you valued opinions yes it runs good pans are replaced all parts are there seats are redone and there's no earlys in NJ for that price LOL thats with the shipping included to .
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Good luck! I'm sure you'll turn her into a beauty thumpup)-
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In the end, it's what you want and thats all that counts!
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Geez John... You went nuke on the first volley!
That's a $2500 vert if the pans are done and it runs. Its a 58 convertible! Not a 72 super. It's rare and more there than your average 72 super.
Do the work yourself and put $4000 in it and you have a $10-$15,000 car
But having seen c1run1's past work, stock is probably not where it'll go 2@@cool
Just don't chop it into something un-registerable. whistleegi
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It's going to be very cool when it's done, and I can't wait to see the progress via pics! You'll have a nice piece of history there 2@@cool doublethumb
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If all the parts are there, I would probably get it, but try to get him down. Also as said, if it is solid, all the better. I know someone who fabbed the rails on his convertible, used heavier metal - he did a great job. Is it on the proper year pans, ie, not on a 67 frame or similar? see if the frame # is right for the body
Good luck!
Matt
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Talk him down. Slam it down. Rigg up a top. Good to go. 2@@cool ( and change air filter) lol
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no, I'm just saying it's not worth $3500. With alot of original parts missing, the only way to go with this car is custom.
Never pay full price if you dont have to.
Never buy a car with your emotions- it can get very expensive.
About 25 years ago I went to look at a 65for $2000- it was a little rough but was fixable- I knew I could do it and was pumped at buying an early car!! Bought it immediately. 3/4 of the way home the trans almost fell out of the car and the clutch was toast. Should have put it through a good test drive before I bought it. Limped it back to the owner the next day- he would only give me back $1500.
I have about $4000 into Ned. And I had 95% of the original parts. But I'm sure you all know how much you can put into these.
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If it's not worth the price for an orginal...
Yea-aaaaaaaaa Drop, it, and Chop it.. Chop the Chit out of it.. Build a Strapper... 2@@cool
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I agree with Ant, talk him down, but if he knows what he's got its prob not going much lower.
Original parts on this car r gonna be scarce, but if you dont care about being original...it could b worth it
I'm pretty sure if the decklid is an original vert lid for that year (kinda looks like it but can't really tell from pics), in rust free shape, it can be worth 300-600 (no joke) and therefore its worth alot more than a 500 parts car. If it was a original 57 vert that lid would b worth... shoot upwards of a $1000. But as you can tell $$$ r high for vert parts and i don't know if repros of that lid r even being made.(they might be?) I have heard of others grafting in the louvers from newer verts to simulate the look and get the extra cooling... for alot less $$$.
Is it worth 3500? Not sure, need more pics to tell you that, but from what i see it could b a really cool ride.
If you like it and have the $$$, and dont car about it being original, than it could b a diamond in rough...
Like John said " buy with your head not your heart"
2@cent
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How much is original or appropriate for the car for that year?
Hood, fenders, engine lid, seats, insturments, door handles, vent windows, etc?
If it mostly is, then you wont be payng a lot for parts then bring it back to stock, there are so many other cars out there you could get, much less rare, to chop-
Why buy it just to destroy what it is - let someone else buy it who can restore it back to it's rare state if you cant.
If you want a car to mod, can prob find a less old one - one in better shape for that money.
Every day, those cars get more and more rare........
If i had the money and my wife would not [gunfiring\ for getting another vw, I would talk him down and get it..
my 2@cent
Matt
Here is one being sold on samba, asking price is
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1301277 (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1301277)
'59 in worse shape..
it could be worse!
[url=http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1337027 (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1344158[/url)
No chop can look this nice - look at all the pics
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1227963 (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1227963)
my opinion only!
matt
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FYI in 1958 VW produced 575,407 standard beetles and only 9,624 verts worldwide. This bug is rare and there are a few 1 year only parts that apply to this bug. Also...steering wheel (the missing one) is 56-59
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decisions, decisions......
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well i kinda left it as im not 100 % decided . It will never be worth the big bucks because of the missing drive line . it would have to go custom . I'm ok with that if i bought it but i still have not seen the work he did . And being a metal guy i'm not looking forward to it .