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VW Lounge => General Forum => Topic started by: 06APRB6 on April 20, 2011, 07:28:10 pm
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I know it can be a heated argument but cell phone use in cars distracts everyone.
There should just be a signal blocker installed so that no cell phone will work inside the vehicle. I love the breathalyzer ignition switch and I think that would be an amazing implementation on all vehicles. To be able to measure BAC with something in the steering wheel.
Now that I am a parent, road hazards and other dangerous everyday things have stood out much more. The cell phone signal blocker would work because it would work all the time. The breathalyzer is easily fooled with a sober passenger or someone willing to blow into it. I think that there should be a steering wheel with small sensors kinda like on a treadmill to measure BAC. This would prevent any getting around the system or at least make it even harder if it monitors constantly. It wouldn't really be seen like the dash mounted breathalyzer.
What do you all think?
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I disagree with ANYTHING that is mandated. The price of cars are ridiculous because of air bags, 5 mph bumpers, ABS, Traction Control, crumple zones, fuel economy, padded dashes and all the other crap the government requires. If it weren't for them trying to "keep us safe" you could still buy a VW Beetle (a perfectly good automobile) & for about 6 grand... just my 2@cent
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Give that man a soapbox !!!! I agree completely. Those are the reasons many cars from other countries are not imported to the US.
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I disagree with ANYTHING that is mandated. The price of cars are ridiculous because of air bags, 5 mph bumpers, ABS, Traction Control, crumple zones, fuel economy, padded dashes and all the other crap the government requires. If it weren't for them trying to "keep us safe" you could still buy a VW Beetle (a perfectly good automobile) & for about 6 grand... just my 2@cent
@%soapbox I understand your reluctance to except Government mandates and sticking their noses into everything but everything you have mentioned above has saved countless lives and disabilities. When you consider the US Motor vehicle deaths are the highest in the world I'm all for safety requirements for our cars. The life they save may be your own.
I also agree with 06APRB6.
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this is tough to say but I'm with 06APR
I dont drink and drive so I dont have to worry. I hate seeing people talk on a cell phone while they are driving near me (although I am guilty of it). I would accept the restrictions although I am with you shawn, the added costs would suck.
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Now to jump on my @%soapbox
This type of regulation far exceeds the powers granted to federal government by the constitution, but snice "We the people" for the most part are a bunch of lazy couch potatoes they get away with it.
IMHO It is a parents job to teach their kids to not be stupid, and not drink and drive or text and drive, or pull their pants up, not eat with their feet, not their government. To quote a president I was not a fan of:
"man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts." ~ Ronald Reagan
I think both are great products that should be an option on all cars not required as standard features.
We the people need to accept the fact that there are inherent risks living in a free country.
Keep in mind the same logic used by the government to force airbags, and anti lock brakes (not that either is a really bad thing) on us all could be used to remove all older cars from the road...
end rant %$oldcit
Wow, yea I know, I'm using the double barrel shotgun this morning #@rofl3
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the product listed only works with smartfones, and I could see the kids it is intending to stop, finding a cleaver way around it....( skype or something) ((or just unplug the thing....))
I think it would be easier to teach safety. you dont't have to worry about the goverment doing something like this...the phone co wont have it....
they tried the same thing for movie theaters....
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Unfortunately, humans don't need a license, permit or any other requirement to propagate or be a parent. As a former teacher (32) years, I could tell you about many young people raising themselves. One in particular I remember was a senior male sleeping in a dumpster near the school because he wanted to finish HS and graduate. His mom had shacked up with some other man and that man didn't want her son in his house! I couldn't treat my worst enemy that way, let alone my own flesh and blood. You wonder why kids look to gangs or act out or get in trouble or don't know how to act. We need to have good, honest, loving parenting!!!!!!!!!!!! Not baby making !!!!!!!!!!!!!
End of rant?
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Unfortunately, humans don't need a license, permit or any other requirement to propagate or be a parent. As a former teacher (32) years, I could tell you about many young people raising themselves. One in particular I remember was a senior male sleeping in a dumpster near the school because he wanted to finish HS and graduate. His mom had shacked up with some other man and that man didn't want her son in his house! I couldn't treat my worst enemy that way, let alone my own flesh and blood. You wonder why kids look to gangs or act out or get in trouble or don't know how to act. We need to have good, honest, loving parenting!!!!!!!!!!!! Not baby making !!!!!!!!!!!!!
End of rant?
We need a like button just like facebook!! clap2-*
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I'm envisioning a hands-free SJVWC Mug for those with safety concerns....
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I'm envisioning a hands-free SJVWC Mug for those with safety concerns....
An SJVWC mug with a very big Straw! &^rofl
This type of regulation far exceeds the powers granted to federal government by the constitution
IMHO It is a parents job to teach their kids to not be stupid, and not drink and drive or text and drive, or pull their pants up, not eat with their feet, not their government.
"man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts." ~ Ronald Reagan
We the people need to accept the fact that there are inherent risks living in a free country.
AMEN Brother! clap2-* clap2-* clap2-*
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I'm envisioning a hands-free SJVWC Mug for those with safety concerns....
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Good points all around. I was rear ended by a women who was on the phone and did not get off the phone until the NJ state trooper told her to get off. And I have been hit by a drunk driver. I was parked in a parking lot and he backed into the driver door of my 1982 Chevy S-10 sending me into the passenger side and my head through the window.
Freedom is important and it seems like our vehicles are heavily regulated. I am in the middle really. I think some is good (seatbelts) and some are bad (window tint). I don't think there will be a day where the government decides to mandate all older cars off the road but we may get to a point with the price of fuel where it could faze out a lot of vehicles. If this "peak oil" theory holds true, I hope I am not around to see it.
I love history but the future both excites me and terrifies me at the same time.
-Cory
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Freedom is important and it seems like our vehicles are heavily regulated. I am in the middle really. I think some is good (seatbelts) and some are bad (window tint). I don't think there will be a day where the government decides to mandate all older cars off the road but we may get to a point with the price of fuel where it could faze out a lot of vehicles. If this "peak oil" theory holds true, I hope I am not around to see it.
I love history but the future both excites me and terrifies me at the same time.
-Cory
Very well put
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This type of regulation far exceeds the powers granted to federal government by the constitution, but snice "We the people" for the most part are a bunch of lazy couch potatoes they get away with it.
In a nutshell Marc and all points well taken guys.
You always see where small groups get laws and other things passed because they are so vocal and the Silent Majority stays silent.
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Those safety features y'all are complaining about have saved thousands of lives! And with all the people talking on their cell phones these days (and other distractions... movies, laptops, eating, etc) we should all be thankful if we're lucky enough to have them in our cars.
If your a parent and you're concerned about kids talking on the phone while driving, there are already companies making devices that you can plug into their OBD2 that you pair with their phone that will prevent calling. You can set it to allow emergency call out only. Pretty neat technology.
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Those safety features y'all are complaining about have saved thousands of lives! And with all the people talking on their cell phones these days (and other distractions... movies, laptops, eating, etc) we should all be thankful if we're lucky enough to have them in our cars.
If your a parent and you're concerned about kids talking on the phone while driving, there are already companies making devices that you can plug into their OBD2 that you pair with their phone that will prevent calling. You can set it to allow emergency call out only. Pretty neat technology.
That is what the product is in the first link. A cell signal jammer for inside the car. It blocks out the signal only when the car is moving. So at a stop light or while parked, they still may use the phone. I was gonna buy this and install it in my wife's car to see if she noticed. THEN I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT HER! lol
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As a multi-tasker I have to disagree. I text all the time when I drive. I don't even have to look at the keyboard. For the most part I consider myself a safe driver, do I text when I'm in a mess of traffic no. I'm kind of annoyed by the whole using the phone while driving being illegal thing. Ive seen people doing some crazy chit as they drive, and how many of us are guilty of driving with a video camera? If you are going to make using your phone illegal, you might as well make eating, putting on make-up, smoking, changing cds, un-dressing illegal too.
<Steps off Soap Box>
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Ive seen people doing some crazy chit as they drive,
and how many of us are guilty of driving with a video camera?
<Steps off Soap Box>
Not me...............
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Not me...............
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LOL.... Jack you are the only person who shoots video, programs GPS, changes radio stations, eats a burger, looks for Ihops, plays with CB & handheld radios, shifts gears and smokes a cig....all at the same time....lol! (i'm sure I forgot something)
multitasking is an understatement
-celly
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LOL.... Jack you are the only person who shoots video, programs GPS, changes radio stations, eats a burger, looks for Ihops, plays with CB & handheld radios, shifts gears and smokes a cig....all at the same time....lol! (i'm sure I forgot something)
#@rofl3
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LOL.... Jack you are the only person who shoots video, programs GPS, changes radio stations, eats a burger, looks for Ihops, plays with CB & handheld radios, shifts gears and smokes a cig....all at the same time....lol! (i'm sure I forgot something)
multitasking is an understatement
-celly
&$hmmthin_+ But I have my seat belt on
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Lot's of valid points Greg. To a point it is stupid, but the $200+ ticket to me is not worth it at all. There are so many things that distract us while we drive. Especially since I work along the beachfront in Cape May -eyescan.=
When I started talking to the girl who would become my wife, I sent texts nonstop while behind the wheel of a 24' box truck. Some of us can multitask but the fuzz won't take that as an excuse. Kinda like that clip when Jermey Piven is on the phone with a radio show in Australia and gets pulled over on air! Funny stuff.
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Even if you can multi task well, you still are losing a part of a second that could be the 5 to 15 feet extra to stop that means the difference between an accident or near miss... fender bender or frame damage, life or death. Yes everyone is guilty to a point, but texting is much much worse than the radio or smoking, eating i'm on the fence about the level of distraction worse than radio better than texting. I get it when stopped in traffic or something, but I have to avoid many morons swerving because the were reading / writing a text... They have proven that texting and driving is as dangerous as drinking and driving... Yes , some people are good at that too, dosent mean you should do it tho whistleegi
Is that text really worth risking someone elses life?
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Sometimes you really need to know what is for dinner!
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Sometimes you really need to know what is for dinner!
&^rofl
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This turned into a great discussion! I have just given up on texting while driving. Use the phone with a wired headset. I haven't been willing to pay for a really good bluetooth. But with gas prices climbing the way they are, I have adjusted my driving drastically anyway.