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Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« on: November 18, 2007, 07:52:28 pm »

So Jerry told my dad that the vaccuum advance isn't working. He told my dad this is the reason why the engine hesitates to pick up speed.
Has anyone heard anything about pulling of the dis cap and the blowing into the hose that goes into the carb to see if a plate moves? Is this an
effective way to check that the vacuum advance works?
This is the only vacuum advance I found online.. is that a reasonable price?

http://www.evwparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=07102&Category_Code=Bug68upTune




Also my dad was thinking that maybe the reason why the car failed emissions was because the choke got stuck and didn't open. In the idiot book it mentions disabling the choke all togather. Has anyone tried this? Let me know what you guys think.  Muir said he use to roll his cigarette and by the time he was done the engine was warm enough to drive.


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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 09:48:17 pm »

Greg,

Applying vacuum to the line going to the advance on the dizzy will cause the small arm inside to move. You will have to pull the distributor cap to see it.

Muir was famous for hating the automatic choke. The simple fact is that your car will be hard to start in cold weather without it. All my dual carb setups don't use chokes and they are tough to get going in cold weather. I'd suggest keeping the choke and just checking to be sure its not hanging up on some crap in the carb. Also if the choke coil is connected and working properly after a few minutes the choke should be fully opened. If it isn't then I'd check the adjustment and then the choke coil to see if its getting warm. If you decide to take the car to an independent garage for the re inspection they should be able to tell if the choke is sticking and possibly fix it before the emissions test.

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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 05:44:13 am »

Ok thanks Bob, I'm probably taking it to Rick for the ball joints and the emissions work. I'll talk to him about the choke when I bring Bridgette to him.
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 12:37:17 pm »

I'm probably taking it to Rick for the ball joints and the emissions work. I'll talk to him about the choke when I bring Bridgette to him.

That is the best thing you can do to get it right. If your choke isnt working he can back it off for you, but you should get a new dist. with Vac. Advance.
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 02:33:43 pm »

Greg,
     Hey, let me know what they charge you for doing the ball joints. If I ever get mine to run, I will need to have my ball joints done as well. I purchased a new sva distrubitor for about 60.00 from cip1.com
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 07:35:58 pm »

I need the whole dis not just the vacuum advance?
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 07:36:30 pm »

Should I go for the Bosch 009 If I'm going to have to get a new dis anyways?
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 07:48:26 pm »

Beetleboi  dist are cheap enough go to cip1 and get yourself a nice new one with vac advance.  For the price there not worth playing with my 2CENTS  you really should stick with the vac advance
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2007, 08:06:55 pm »

Alrighty, I will start saving up. I sense some Christmas money coming to me very shortly.
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2007, 08:25:50 pm »




  Get exactly what ol' 3 gear got.


    Best distrib to buy.



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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2007, 08:38:38 pm »

What did he get?
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 09:07:26 pm »



Greg,
     Hey, let me know what they charge you for doing the ball joints. If I ever get mine to run, I will need to have my ball joints done as well. I purchased a new sva distrubitor for about 60.00 from cip1.com


             a new sva distrubitor

single vacuum advance distrib.  typically a 009 with a vacuum unit


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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2007, 10:11:31 pm »

The vacuum on my dis is a dual, shouldn't I get another dis with a dual vacuum?
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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 12:04:01 pm »

Nope,

don't make them anymore, dual was used to decrease smog emissions  stoned#

  Changing a distrib means you have to change your timing appropriately for that distrib.

For the purist, .......I have I thnk 2 extra dual distrib.s

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Re: Vaccum advance and Choke Trouble?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 01:20:19 pm »

Wont there be an extra hose on my carb for where the other vacuum line should go? I'd rather not have things plugged up but if that's what I have to do that's what I have to do. I was also thinking about getting a re built carb to solve the choke problem if that is what the problem is, carb is junk anyways, should I get one to match the single vaccum dis?


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