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Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« on: June 22, 2008, 03:26:21 pm »

Does anyone have any info on Engine Pulley Removal/Installation? Found a black degree pulley for 41 bucks wanted to find out what I'm getting myself into before I buy it.

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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2008, 10:12:36 pm »



 Not too bad, if you are very careful, you can pry, but some can be very stubborn.

Did one once while engine was in, had a nice little special pry bar, and it came off without much prob.
Friend of mine tried it, could not get his off
   

There is a cheap puller you can buy, and I think it will accommodate what little space you have in the engine compartment to pull it.

Why do you want a degree wheel? - looks?


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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 12:00:30 am »

Just to be on the safe side of where my timing should be. I'd feel more comfortable setting it by numbers instead of notches that may be wrong.  I also have a feeling that the one on it is the wrong pulley.
Thanks for the info Matt, I'll keep an eye out for the degree pulley...puller.
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 06:14:09 am »

Greg,

Just make sure what you buy is marked correctly. Sometimes the numbers can be off a bit on the aftermarket stuff. You just might be better off marking your stock pulley with a notch or something that won't rub off. All you need is your timing mark, TDC ( top dead center ) and BDC ( bottom dead center ).
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 11:09:22 am »

do you have any brands that u can reccomend? would i be able to buy a stock pully by the engine code i know the one on it has two notches and a dimple. and paint for bdc
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 12:32:25 pm »

on a stock engine its not really necessary, no power increase just for looks only.

I'd try to figure out what marks are on your pulley, and just repaint the stocker. Then you can always scribe a couple of lines or put a small notch in the 3 spots.

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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 12:46:19 pm »

it would be for ease  of tuning not for power increse. maybe dad and i can pull the first plug out and remark the pully. which plug do u pull to find bdc or do u just measure 180 around from tdc
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 03:22:32 pm »

OK now I have to go into my "Zen Master" personality......Ahem....  Poof

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Yea, like the zen dude said check out the idiot book he has a complete section on finding out what you want to know!
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 03:34:21 pm »

im just going to have to keep my book at work. i had one copy here and must have taken it home. i will read up one it tonight after practice
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 04:45:47 pm »

It only goes on one way. To be sure make sure #1 cylinder is at TDC. Distributor rotor will be at #1 cylinder fire postion which is marked on the distributor unlessless it's been reindexed. Excisting pully should be at TDC. Speaking only for myself, the old one came off & new one went on with no problems. Numbers on my new pully were dead on. I used a Scat unit
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2008, 07:08:44 pm »




  If you go to what you think is TDC as outlined above, you can pull #1 plug (closest to passenger) put a pencil down the hole eraser end first, and turn the pulley wheel a little either way. Keep ya finger on the pencil point so you can feel movment. Where the pencil is now at TDC, you should not feel any upward travel, just downward as the pencil is riding on the piston and this is TDC.  If you are notched at TDC with the crankcase, and feel downward movment from this point when you turn the pulley wheel then............hmmm....

I think this is what Master Bob was alluding to.  - BUT DO READ the Muir. good to double check me; always. ( my disclaimer)

    Long time ago I bought a stick-on degree pulley ring  sticker that goes onto degreed pulley rings if/when their numbers get rubbed off.  I keep it as a check on pulley wheels like what you have to check the notches. I just hold the TDC label of the ring against the pulley TDC and look at the degrees of the other notches. Not Nachos, notches!



  Can look for that in catalogs if you want.  But really not necessary. Remember your distrib model determines it's ATDC/BTDC for stock engines anyway.....

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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2008, 07:57:44 pm »

Hey don't you remember the famous words of those who have worked on these engines for years, "if it ain't broke don't fix it". You have the marks (notches),on the pulley already and I have the white paint to mark the correct notch. I think it's 5 deg BTDC.
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2008, 08:01:04 pm »

I'm with your Dad on this one. Your pulley was made for your car. The aftermarket one was made for any car. Learn the notches on the flywheel you have.  Hell, if you want to drive out here this weekend, I'll even show you how to use it.  sjvwc.ico
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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2008, 08:04:54 pm »

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Hey don't you remember the famous words of those who have worked on these engines for years, "if it ain't broke don't fix it". You have the marks (notches),on the pulley already and I have the white paint to mark the correct notch. I think it's 5 deg BTDC.

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Re: Engine Pulley Removal Installation
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2008, 11:15:10 pm »

Air-cooled said my timing has to be TDC not 5 Before TDC. So I dunno who to go with. The motor, or the instructions that came with their distributor. I'm going to double check with them too see what's going on.

I tuned it last time to the Muir book and it still ran like crap. Maybe I'll just open up my wallet and take it somewhere.
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