my #%@&*^"?>! alternator

Started by 6T5 square, June 23, 2008, 07:57:49 PM

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6T5 square

Went out to look at the alternator tonight and got into a little geometry.

My motor sits at +6 degrees from perfect level while my alternator is sitting on top of the motor at -1 degree. This is why she is screaming.

God, I hope Ramone has that part!`
John
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njgt-1

one word...

shims ?

can it be done ?
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6T5 square

I have a double shim I welded together a while back but its too thick. The problem is getting the shims to sit in the right place with out moving around. With the two different year fan housings I have, there is a step down on the back half. This is why I'm hoping on Ramone. He has a complete fan housing inlet. Otherwise, yeah, I'll be shimming away this week end
John
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njgt-1

Just a thought, too bad you can't have somebody machine a tapered hunk of steel with any of the contours you need to make them match up.
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6T5 square

They would need air holes. The alternator sits on top of the fan housing so the air can come up through the bottom and cool off the alternator
John
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njgt-1

QuoteThey would need air holes. The alternator sits on top of the fan housing so the air can come up through the bottom and cool off the alternator

With the right set up that might be easy. I don't mean you should do this right now but in the future if there was a way to mock it up and get it made cheaply I bet you could make a few bucks from other T-3 owners with a similar problem. I'll have to check my links in the office computer but someplace I have a link for a machine shop in China that will make things really cheap. They work off the internet from plans you send and they will make 1 or 10,000 of something. Just a thought.
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6T5 square

Went to Ramones today. He had the part that I needed but it was on what he said was a running motor. I felt guilty so I didn't take it. So it looks like I'll be spending my weekend in the garage cursin and shimming and fabricating whatever the hell I can to get this thing to sit still and level.

BTW- I went to Franks garage also. I saw the sample colors he sprayed on the fast back he is doing for his wife. That car, in those colors are going to look SWEET!!!


John
60 Beetle- Ned
65 1500S Squareback-Weezer gone but not forgotten
2014 Jetta
Dont know everything but I'll try and learn
Friends don't let friends drive 6 volts
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lovebus (jack)

#7
You should have taken it so you can fix that POS the right way, save yourself lots of aggravation, and then keep an eye out for another one to give back to him.

I agree, that fastback is going to be sweet.
I don't have to go to work in the morning....

RT 66 June 1, 2015

"Why restore it to its former short comings
When you can modify it too its full potential."

6T5 square

Quote from: 6d4vdub (jack) on June 25, 2008, 09:12:12 PM
You should have taken it so you can fix that POS the right way, save yourself lots of aggravation, and then keep an eye out for another one to give back to him.


Yeah, but think about it. Would you want me taking apart a working motor from your garage?


I think you need to spend more time in the love bus cause I'm not seeing the love here.
John
60 Beetle- Ned
65 1500S Squareback-Weezer gone but not forgotten
2014 Jetta
Dont know everything but I'll try and learn
Friends don't let friends drive 6 volts
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lovebus (jack)

That motor will sit there and rot and if he ever does use it, he will probably put in a T-1 and junk the T-3 stuff. I'm sure you will find a replacment for it one of theses days, and if he said you could have it, why not. Shhhhh.
I don't have to go to work in the morning....

RT 66 June 1, 2015

"Why restore it to its former short comings
When you can modify it too its full potential."

6T5 square

Well, I think I got it going. I removed the air intake and the bellows so i could get a full on shot at the generator mounting area. I ground down some of the supports on the old half of the fan housing so now the alternator will sit lower. I shimmed the front of the alternator but my problem still seems to be getting enough tension on the belt.

I saw a used assembly on the samba for $30. Both halfs, so at least I know they match. Maybe wednesday, Ill buy it.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=607210

Trying to get weezer together for the 4th of July show over at silver diner in Cherry hill. Anyone else going?
John
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65 1500S Squareback-Weezer gone but not forgotten
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Dont know everything but I'll try and learn
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6T5 square

Hey Jack,

to continue our discussion about switching pulleys on my alternator...

The shaft on the old generator is 7/16". The shaft on the alternator is 1/2" ( yes I used the micrometer) Meaning there is only a difference of 1/16 of an inch. So this must mean I can bore out the old pulley 1/16" more and then it should fit on the shaft. The only question is how can I put machine in a woodruff key?

I'm not going to take all of this apart until after next weekend (Merchantville) But is this something we can do at your shop?

Thanks for the info and help.
John
60 Beetle- Ned
65 1500S Squareback-Weezer gone but not forgotten
2014 Jetta
Dont know everything but I'll try and learn
Friends don't let friends drive 6 volts
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lovebus (jack)

We can do it at my cousins, no problimbo.
I don't have to go to work in the morning....

RT 66 June 1, 2015

"Why restore it to its former short comings
When you can modify it too its full potential."

6T5 square

Check that!

I forgot about the collar under the threads on the original genny. When I take out the alternator, I'll get better measurements of both.
John
60 Beetle- Ned
65 1500S Squareback-Weezer gone but not forgotten
2014 Jetta
Dont know everything but I'll try and learn
Friends don't let friends drive 6 volts
Obnoxious objector??

lovebus (jack)

Hay Johnny, whats up with alternator?
I don't have to go to work in the morning....

RT 66 June 1, 2015

"Why restore it to its former short comings
When you can modify it too its full potential."