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How hard can it be....
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:44:03 pm »
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1155186

So haw hard can it be to shoehorn this into a beetle?

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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 08:45:31 pm »
Hell, for that matter, I have an extra one of these in my garage!

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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 09:00:28 pm »
Would be nice to know what it is?!
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 11:07:12 pm »
Quote from: Beetleboi -Greg- on September 16, 2011, 09:00:28 pm
Would be nice to know what it is?!

Automatic transaxle from a vanagon.


Why not use a T3 auto?  Should be closer to compatible.

Noone believes me but I have in my life seen an automatic beetle (in Columbus NJ as a matter of fact)  Owner wasnt around so I didnt get to ask about it but I always assumed it was a T3 swap.
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 11:39:47 pm »
The top one IS a T3 auto...



And that's what I'm saying. It can't be too hard. Brand spanking new on Samba for $2500.
Put that in Franks vert and it'll be worth $4000 more.
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 07:44:56 am »
once again the VW community turns to the lowly type3's for inovations.

just suck it up and come to the dark side
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 08:01:06 am »
Quote from: 6T5 square on September 17, 2011, 07:44:56 am
once again the VW community turns to the lowly type3's for inovations.


Don't flatter yourself, it's a T2 ( NOT Type 2 contrary to popular belief) transmission they used in the Type 3

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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 08:04:16 am »
Quote from: 6T5 square on September 17, 2011, 07:44:56 am
once again the VW community turns to the lowly type3's for inovations.

just suck it up and come to the dark side

I was telling Matt the other day, that the Squareback would make a great soccer dad vehicle, not to mention optimal space for my tuba.
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 10:05:25 am »
 &$hmmthin_+
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 08:52:39 pm »
Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on September 16, 2011, 08:44:03 pm
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1155186

So haw hard can it be to shoehorn this into a beetle?



And since I never fully answered....

No harder than it was to stuff this


Into this..


The width means its going to encroach on your torsion bars.  So ditch the torsion and clearance the frame.  Put the trailing arms on the adapter joints they make and go to coil overs for the rear suspension.

Bring me a body off chassis and the transmission and its a weekend or two at the slow pace at which I seem to work.

These are the adapters, they bolt to the spring torsion end and let the spring plate ride on heim joints



http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/buggy/susp/buggyreararms.htm
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 08:39:11 pm »
Ahhh... So thats how you did it  &^beer&
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 08:48:36 pm »
sheesh.... is that all it took???   #@rofl3
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2011, 08:53:06 pm »
Quote from: Baha (Shawn) on September 18, 2011, 08:39:11 pm
Ahhh... So thats how you did it  &^beer&

Actually I used an unmodified torsion housing, I didnt need the spring plate adapters since I used a stock transaxle. 

If you've never seen how the whole thing came together though you should definitely check out wartburg.misfittoysracing.com

I had just looked at the spring plate conversions as an option when we briefly considered going mid engined which would have required removing the torsion bars.
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2011, 08:53:41 pm »
Quote from: kvbug on September 18, 2011, 08:48:36 pm
sheesh.... is that all it took???   #@rofl3

Its all just bits and pieces...bolt them together, weld them together.  Pray alot, curse more.
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Re: How hard can it be....
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2011, 08:54:01 pm »
Quote from: kvbug on September 18, 2011, 08:48:36 pm
sheesh.... is that all it took???   #@rofl3

 #@rofl3
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